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			While Ryuki's design is fine, I think one kamen rider with a barbecue grill for a face is enough. No thanks.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			    ![]() That said, I love this repaint. I am waiting for a higher res pic in case they do have some intricate details but until then, I am fine with a blue repaint. Heck, the OG double riders were repaints. 
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			Is Saber’s form star themed because of Luna, because her name is Luna? Seemed like they missed on the opportunity to have it take power from all the Seiken. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Also, I didn’t notice earlier, but the guard on his new sword seems to be able to move up the blade. We haven’t seen that since Kiva’s Zanvat Sword. Last edited by Skyrogue19; 05-26-2021 at 06:37 PM..  | 
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		 Quote: 
	Is Saber’s form star themed because of Luna, because her name is Luna? Seemed like they missed on the opportunity to have it take power from all the Seiken. 
		
		Also, I didn’t notice earlier, but the guard on his new sword seems to be able to move up the blade. We haven’t seen that since Kiva’s Zanvat Sword. 
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			 I'm a Kamen Rider 
			
			
			
				
			
				
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		![]() I can't really make out the Wonder Ride Book Touma's holding in the right side of the scan but I think it's Brave Dragon? Does this mean Cross Saber is just Brave Dragon being used by a new sword? Is that why Cross Saber is a repaint? 
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			If the rumors that we'll be getting 50 episodes is true, I think that it's entirely possible we'll get an entirely new WRB later and Cross Saber will serve as the new base form for that.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			It's just Brave Dragon.  
		
		
		
			Here are my actual thoughts lol: Progression-wise to how Saber's forms look, this is like walking on the stairs and then jumping towards another one. It's wholly different. But, it makes sense for Touma's character for it to be like this. His whole schtick was about the sword, not the book. His arc in Q2 on how he was to rely less on his books and more about his swordsmanship, this culminates on that. Using a new sword, but he goes back to square one. In short, not my favorite final form, but it's one I can love for what it's supposed to be. Edit: Seems like you can adjust the position of the emblem, which also kinda looks like it changes the visor? Last edited by TheRaizin; 05-26-2021 at 07:12 PM..  | 
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New Seiken means new base form. It makes sense to me that Saber's final form would require some kind of transitionary form - cause how would he go back to Saber Brave Dragon now that Rekka is a new, different sword?  | 
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	Yeah, this just makes sense. Toy-wise it makes sense, too. No other Seiken is sold without a new WRB. Final form weapons are already hard sells to the point of breaking tradition - how and why would they be able to sell this new Seiken without a new WRB, at least? 
		
		New Seiken means new base form. It makes sense to me that Saber's final form would require some kind of transitionary form - cause how would he go back to Saber Brave Dragon now that Rekka is a new, different sword? Also, I feel dumb. I finally know why Cross-Saber is star-themed. Stars hot af and also contrasts to Luna. And also because we already had the all-powers and penultimate fire form combined with Elemental.  | 
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			I'm still waiting for the form with a giant pen.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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