Kamen Rider SABER Rumours and Discussion Thread

Enchilada645 · 05-31-2021, 11:03 PM

Desast needs to become the next Momotaros.

TheRaizin · 05-31-2021, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Frontier

I don't think we've had a full Kaijin turn into a Rider since the Taro's, have we? At least that didn't have a human form.

It's like Desast has become such a meme that they're now making him a Rider.

Gold Drive and Proto-Drive maybe?

Sunred · 06-01-2021, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DrChief

Well, maybe not Ren. This could be Desast's way of trying to get Ren to join his side: becoming a swordsman. Because clearly swordsmen are signs of strength.

This is also probably the reason why the Haouken Xross Saber doesn't appear to have powers based on the Mumeiken Kyomu. Clearly Desast interfered.

Now the real question is if Desast remains a wild card, form a temporary alliance with the swordsman because chaos, ally himself with Storius, or become the surprise final boss? And did he steal the power, or did Bahato give up his powers?

...Probably stole it.

I assume he will be preoccupied with Mei's custom friendship badge.
Off topic, I find it funny how two former rangers are villains in a kamen rider. One was the cool brainy firefighter and the other a mediocre sushi chef with a knack for digitizing the mystic arts via feature phone.

Lalo · 06-01-2021, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRaizin

Gold Drive and Proto-Drive maybe?

Proto-Drive became Chase, so I'd say he doesn0t count for this.

Ark-Zero, maybe?

FreshToku · 06-01-2021, 02:24 AM

Been wracking my brain over Xross Saber for a while. All opinions about how good it looks or how it'll be implemented in the show aside (I've come around to thinking it is pretty neat), its a money-saving measure if there ever was one, and maybe not one that's entirely unprecedented.

I always thought the reason why 'final form weapons' stopped being made was easy to infer. Releasing a big, uniquely-molded DX weapon toy at the very tailend of the timeline ultimately proved to not be ideally profitible (to be fair, a big company like Toei/Bandai would be quick to call anything thats not a big hit to be 'underperforming'. : P). After all, that late into the yearly toyline's lifespan, a significant number of casual buyers would have tapered off, and production would already be working on next year's toyline.

So as time passed, the final form toys is restricted to a new suit and a very straightforward collectible. I think the Zero-Two Driver add-on piece was the first in a while to experiment with that? Anyway, I think Xross Saber is like, the next step in that money-saving process, with its repainted everythings and collectible which gets its play value from previous toys.

As for why this is happening here and now... Well, despite the hilarity with Solomon being a kitbash from head to toe, I very much doubt the Kamen Rider budget is actually in trouble or anything. There's any number of reasons I could think of why Xross Saber is what it is. Off the top of my head, maybe the delayed sales of Zero-Two's merch last year made production want to play it extra safe with the end of Saber's toyline. Or they really want to save expenses for whatever they're planning for Revice/Rider's big 50th.

Androzani84 · 06-01-2021, 03:31 AM

One thing I’m looking forward to hearing… well not physically, but roughly on those lines… is the “three Legend Ridebooks” announcement.

VoidinToku · 06-01-2021, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Future Rider Prism

So, wait. Hold it.

Desast

becomes Falchion.

Desast is Falchion now. Okay.

I have questions.

This is even more unexpected than Saber's final upgrade being his old forms boosted with space power.

I don't know how I feel about this.

ghost’s ghost rider team good at all talk no show or just show and no explanations.

Anonymcat · 06-01-2021, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VoidinToku

ghost’s ghost rider team good at all talk no show or just show and no explanations.

Eh we still don't know how they give the sword to Desast in term of writing as of now, because it can just be a simple Bacht get killed by Desast scenario, if anything this just give Bacht a death flag more than a potential plot hole.

Beside what is your beef with the Ghost rider team anyway? Because while the show is rough, i think they did pretty alright so far in term of making a good show and writting and Saber is overal a massive improvement over Ghost (which i appreciate) granted there's some plot holes, but the plot holes are overal not really show breaking.

(Plus that's a weird way to spell Kabuto)

Kurona · 06-01-2021, 07:36 AM

The thing with Xross Saber's new sword is that it's not just a new weapon, it's a new Driver with how this show and toyline works! It's essentially taking the same place as the White Wizardriver or the Evol Driver; the very late-game driver release that does new things with all your old items.

TheRaizin · 06-01-2021, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurona

The thing with Xross Saber's new sword is that it's not just a new weapon, it's a new Driver with how this show and toyline works! It's essentially taking the same place as the White Wizardriver or the Evol Driver; the very late-game driver release that does new things with all your old items.

I've legitimately forgotten that the Evol Driver can read all the bottles! And I think there are some unused sounds as well like a Dino sound?

05-31-2021, 11:48 PM	#2362
TheRaizin Reiei Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 3,691	Quote: Originally Posted by Frontier I don't think we've had a full Kaijin turn into a Rider since the Taro's, have we? At least that didn't have a human form. It's like Desast has become such a meme that they're now making him a Rider. Gold Drive and Proto-Drive maybe? __________________ Art on: https://twitter.com/Rei_eiiii8

06-01-2021, 12:00 AM	#2363
Sunred Ex-Weather Three leader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 11,780	Quote: Originally Posted by DrChief Well, maybe not Ren. This could be Desast's way of trying to get Ren to join his side: becoming a swordsman. Because clearly swordsmen are signs of strength. This is also probably the reason why the Haouken Xross Saber doesn't appear to have powers based on the Mumeiken Kyomu. Clearly Desast interfered. Now the real question is if Desast remains a wild card, form a temporary alliance with the swordsman because chaos, ally himself with Storius, or become the surprise final boss? And did he steal the power, or did Bahato give up his powers? ...Probably stole it. I assume he will be preoccupied with Mei's custom friendship badge. Off topic, I find it funny how two former rangers are villains in a kamen rider. One was the cool brainy firefighter and the other a mediocre sushi chef with a knack for digitizing the mystic arts via feature phone. __________________

06-01-2021, 02:24 AM	#2365
FreshToku take me to space Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 1,406	Been wracking my brain over Xross Saber for a while. All opinions about how good it looks or how it'll be implemented in the show aside (I've come around to thinking it is pretty neat), its a money-saving measure if there ever was one, and maybe not one that's entirely unprecedented. I always thought the reason why 'final form weapons' stopped being made was easy to infer. Releasing a big, uniquely-molded DX weapon toy at the very tailend of the timeline ultimately proved to not be ideally profitible (to be fair, a big company like Toei/Bandai would be quick to call anything thats not a big hit to be 'underperforming'. : P). After all, that late into the yearly toyline's lifespan, a significant number of casual buyers would have tapered off, and production would already be working on next year's toyline. So as time passed, the final form toys is restricted to a new suit and a very straightforward collectible. I think the Zero-Two Driver add-on piece was the first in a while to experiment with that? Anyway, I think Xross Saber is like, the next step in that money-saving process, with its repainted everythings and collectible which gets its play value from previous toys. As for why this is happening here and now... Well, despite the hilarity with Solomon being a kitbash from head to toe, I very much doubt the Kamen Rider budget is actually in trouble or anything. There's any number of reasons I could think of why Xross Saber is what it is. Off the top of my head, maybe the delayed sales of Zero-Two's merch last year made production want to play it extra safe with the end of Saber's toyline. Or they really want to save expenses for whatever they're planning for Revice/Rider's big 50th. Last edited by FreshToku; 06-01-2021 at 02:32 AM..

06-01-2021, 03:31 AM	#2366
Androzani84 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 2,907	One thing I’m looking forward to hearing… well not physically, but roughly on those lines… is the “three Legend Ridebooks” announcement. __________________ The song has ended. But the story never ends

06-01-2021, 06:41 AM	#2368
Anonymcat New Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 36	Quote: Originally Posted by VoidinToku ghost’s ghost rider team good at all talk no show or just show and no explanations. Eh we still don't know how they give the sword to Desast in term of writing as of now, because it can just be a simple Bacht get killed by Desast scenario, if anything this just give Bacht a death flag more than a potential plot hole. Beside what is your beef with the Ghost rider team anyway? Because while the show is rough, i think they did pretty alright so far in term of making a good show and writting and Saber is overal a massive improvement over Ghost (which i appreciate) granted there's some plot holes, but the plot holes are overal not really show breaking. (Plus that's a weird way to spell Kabuto) Last edited by Anonymcat; 06-01-2021 at 06:46 AM..