[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger

Ah gotcha.

Let's see here....about a good half of the series? Almost all of the first season was filler. They had an entire filler arc for the first 1/3-1/2 of R (the Doom Tree Arc). Those are just the examples off the top of my head. The manga was very to the point and was mostly plot point after plot point. The original anime added a lot of content to make full-length seasons. As well as altering some of the story in some ways.

And it was some of the best/most endearing moments of the show, too.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

Yeah, exactly. At a certain point all Soulslikes shepherd you into damage avoidance rather than mitigation and while you can go on and on about how it's about developing skill rather than lolfacetanking... It directly conflicts with the idea of playing how you want, now doesn't it?

At the same time, you're going against the idea of the game. You can do it, the same way people can beat these games without leveling up, but you probably won't have much of a fun time.

I would compare it to trying to win in a racing game by going slow. Might be possible somehow, but why would you, instead of trying to enjoy the rush of going fast?

[Kamen Rider Lolita]

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger

The manga was very to the point and was mostly plot point after plot point. The original anime added a lot of content to make full-length seasons. As well as altering some of the story in some ways.

So the manga doesn't really have any "breather" moments or filler moments of its own?

Back when Crystal came out, I watched a YouTube video saying that Crystal shouldn't be one's introduction to Sailor Moon.

[GreenPsychoRanger]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lolita

So the manga doesn't really have any "breather" moments or filler moments of its own?

Back when Crystal came out, I watched a YouTube video saying that Crystal shouldn't be one's introduction to Sailor Moon.

Yeah. No. The manga has no breathing room. As for Crystal not being an introduction to Sailor Moon....that's purely personal taste. The animation style is rather...interesting. It tries to mimic Naoko's style of art, but makes them look like those super anorexic dolls that girls like these days. And some of the animations used didn't exactly turn out right. *looks at rod twirling incident* But over all it's faithful to the manga.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

At the same time, you're going against the idea of the game. You can do it, the same way people can beat these games without leveling up, but you probably won't have much of a fun time.

I would compare it to trying to win in a racing game by going slow. Might be possible somehow, but why would you, instead of trying to enjoy the rush of going fast?

Right, but again- how is that different from Strongly Encouraging specific playstyles later down the line? I've done enough WoW in my time to know that adapting to encounters doesn't just mean flipping around like coin toss championships, some fights you genuinely just have outlast the other guy blow for blow.

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger

Yeah. No. The manga has no breathing room. As for Crystal not being an introduction to Sailor Moon....that's purely personal taste. The animation style is rather...interesting. It tries to mimic Naoko's style of art, but makes them look like those super anorexic dolls that girls like these days. And some of the animations used didn't exactly turn out right. *looks at rod twirling incident* But over all it's faithful to the manga.

Also the art style is too... stiff. There's no fluidity, no emotion to it, until S3.

Contrast the 90s series which was a treasure trove of amazing reactions and emotions.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lolita

So the manga doesn't really have any "breather" moments or filler moments of its own?

Back when Crystal came out, I watched a YouTube video saying that Crystal shouldn't be one's introduction to Sailor Moon.

Best place to start is, genuinely, the 90s series in my opinion.

[GreenPsychoRanger]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

Right, but again- how is that different from Strongly Encouraging specific playstyles later down the line? I've done enough WoW in my time to know that adapting to encounters doesn't just mean flipping around like coin toss championships, some fights you genuinely just have outlast the other guy blow for blow.



Also the art style is too... stiff. There's no fluidity, no emotion to it, until S3.

Contrast the 90s series which was a treasure trove of amazing reactions and emotions.



Best place to start is, genuinely, the 90s series in my opinion.

I have to disagree here. Start with the manga. Start where it all began. IMO, starting with 90's anime is what's led to people thinking that anything else is wrong. Both are valid, I'll never say they aren't. But if you start with utmost basic of the series and lore, you can build off that with the 90's anime.

Just make sure you ignore the original dub. Either watch subbed or the newer dubs.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger

Just make sure you ignore the original dub. Either watch subbed or the newer dubs.

And that's where I strongly disagree. The DiC/Cloverway dub, for its flaws, is not without charm.

But the Viz dub is probably going to be easier to find unless you reside on the Gokai Galleon.

[GreenPsychoRanger]

I won't lie, the DiC/Cloverway dubs do have their charm. But their censorship is what kills the entire dub for me. Making Haruka and Michiru "cousins" when there's clearly more going on there. It's just wrong. WRONG I SAY!

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

Right, but again- how is that different from Strongly Encouraging specific playstyles later down the line?

It is interesting to argue if they encourage or discourage playstyles.

Bleed works very well in this game, so people who abuse this will find the game much easier. Is it encouraged by the developers to do so because of that? It kind of ruins the appeal of the game so you won't have as much fun with it IMO, but it is possible.

Similarly, if you neglect basic elements of the game, liking rolling out of harm?s way, is your playstyle discouraged? You can still do it.

See I use a very basic armor, the posterboy one, it?s not very good. I like the way it looks. I use a very basic sword, I like the way it looks. And I use a very basic shield because I don?t use shields aside from parrying anymore. I don?t use the new summon mechanic very often either. I just want to go in and whack stuff with my sword until they are dead.

Do I have a harder time? I think I do. But I like it this way, and I always succeed sooner or later. That's why I don?t feel pressured into needing to adapt to a specific playstyle, I can ignore game mechanics and still win, but I need to adapt in a different way than rearranging equipment, in this case be ready to lose a lot in order to learn patterns. But it is possible.

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Originally Posted by Talisman

I've done enough WoW in my time to know that adapting to encounters doesn't just mean flipping around like coin toss championships, some fights you genuinely just have outlast the other guy blow for blow.

But outlasting in Souls games is more like try to not get hit, because not dying makes you live longer

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger

I won't lie, the DiC/Cloverway dubs do have their charm. But their censorship is what kills the entire dub for me. Making Haruka and Michiru "cousins" when there's clearly more going on there. It's just wrong. WRONG I SAY!

And that's why it's funny, 20 years later.

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

But outlasting in Souls games is more like try to not get hit, because not dying makes you live longer

I did not earn my stripes as a Tankadin by not getting hit, goddammit!