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06-26-2022, 08:26 PM | #181 |
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Episode 9!!
-I really enjoy Izu in this! I can't believe I forgot her monologue in this ep, it's real good! (Also the bit near the end, how she targets Yua by asking her a question but not giving her time to answer. It really gives an air of.....disappoinment? Like a parent asking "who got into the brownies?" to a kid with chocolate smeared all over their mouth) -Horobi and Jin are a fun pair to watch fight together, real "take your child to work day" energy, except said work is enacting terroist schemes. -The bit with Aruto and Fuwa on the rooftop, it's a cute gag. Aruto worrying his jokes cause physical pain.... -Horobi's whole thing is about "liberating" Humagears and rising aganist humans. There's not really any kind of point given concerning why humans should get the boot, other than it being the Ark's will. Does this make his villianous decress feel flimsy....Yeah, just a bit. (Of course, we can make assumptions based on the past 9 episodes abt how Humagear existence/autonomy is seen and treated by humans to bulid a case for him, but I'd rather not put words in the terrorist-cultist's mouth, yknow?) -There's a small detail I'm slightly fond of. Izu reports in this episode that MJBR are not connected to Zea/in their records. This is kind of teased upon earlier, on how Jin was forced to use a computer to look up the word "son", while Izu can merely access the internet through Zea directly to look up the word "passion". I'm sure not being connected to Zea has its uses, but it probably also might be tedious in some areas as well.... |
06-26-2022, 08:27 PM | #182 |
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I realize I've been silent for too long now. Especially in the first quarter of Zero-One.
So Horobi and Jin, the ForceRiders, have a neat aesthetic to their designs. Its full of hazard lines, strewn together haphazardly, and evokes the look of something dangerous, and I love that look. Even the sounds sound like a bomb waiting to go off, where even the peppy voice of the Progrise Keys gets distorted somewhat in the transformation, and the point of forcing them open to create their suits is just plain cool. This show explores things a lot of other A.I./technology shows don't usually touch on, and that's that there is no clear answer to whether their evil or not. It's not saying "technology evil" or "technology is good future" but looks at both and leaves the cast to figure that out, and that's a good thing. And good gosh did the action scenes impress. The ForceRiders in action just scream destruction, watching Horobi destroy Vulcan being one of those instances, and just the whole aesthetic with Zero-One's Finishers. Good stuff. |
06-27-2022, 12:09 AM | #183 |
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Yeah, I can?t say much about this episode. I do prefer the Time Mazine to Breaking Mammoth (I don?t know why) and I took notice of the poses that Horobi and Jin?s Rider Models do with them, but the people I shared it with didn?t see much point to pointing it out, since they?re not really sentient.
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Horobi's whole thing is about "liberating" Humagears and rising aganist humans. There's not really any kind of point given concerning why humans should get the boot, other than it being the Ark's will. Does this make his villianous decress feel flimsy....Yeah, just a bit. (Of course, we can make assumptions based on the past 9 episodes abt how Humagear existence/autonomy is seen and treated by humans to bulid a case for him, but I'd rather not put words in the terrorist-cultist's mouth, yknow?)
There's some fun in that, in them treating human extinction as a weirdly bloody checklist and nothing more. That's an unusual way to launch a war against a species. But it would probably help the story some if we got a clearer idea of why Ark made this decision, and I assume that'll be along in due course. Quote:
So Horobi and Jin, the ForceRiders, have a neat aesthetic to their designs. Its full of hazard lines, strewn together haphazardly, and evokes the look of something dangerous, and I love that look. Even the sounds sound like a bomb waiting to go off, where even the peppy voice of the Progrise Keys gets distorted somewhat in the transformation, and the point of forcing them open to create their suits is just plain cool.
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06-27-2022, 09:08 AM | #184 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 9 - ?PUT THAT LIFE IN THEIR HANDS?
That idea of multiple conflicting inputs creating options to alter destinies, we even get that in the resolution to Fuwa?s front-to-back, top-to-bottom ass-whupping from last episode. Fuwa was nearly killed by Humagears twelve years ago, but he was saved by a Humagear today. He can?t lean on the All Humagears Are Evil thing anymore, because he?s proof that they aren?t. He gets to choose which input ? Evil or Good ? he gives the most weight to. And, yeah, he might still pick Evil! One good robot doesn?t outweigh an army of killer ones, and that?s his choice to make. But now he?ll have to reckon with the possibility of Humagears being worth protecting, and that?s a step in the right direction. Quote:
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE SO-DO AI 02: KAMEN RIDER VULCAN - PUNCHING KONG
It?s Fuwa?s first form change, and I like how it denotes its power. It?s bulky and dark on top, slim and white on the bottom. It?s not the slight vertical asymmetry of Shooting Wolf, it?s a massively powerful upper-half and nothing else. The red lines help break up the blocks of black, and reinforce the raw power of the design. It looks like it?s going to hurt you, even more than Shooting Wolf?s barely-restrained fury. Quote:
Second brings us a touch of delusion, as it's based on Deluknight, from Akibaranger's Season 1.
And third, the one I actually forgot the origins of, may be proof of how AI and robotics got so advanced in such a short time scale. As the History Channel would say - Aliens. Anyway, it's a reworking of the Megahex suit from the Gaim/Drive Movie Wars.
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06-27-2022, 09:18 AM | #185 |
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Ah, production details I know enough to talk about! As I'm sure some of you know, the prototype Humagears in Aruto's office are pretty familiar. First, Hiden presumably bought out Nanba Inc at some point, because one model is based off the Guardians from Build. Incidentally, following Kikai, this makes the 3rd series in a row where the Guardian suit is around and available in SO-DO form.
Second brings us a touch of delusion, as it's based on Deluknight, from Akibaranger's Season 1. And third, the one I actually forgot the origins of, may be proof of how AI and robotics got so advanced in such a short time scale. As the History Channel would say - Aliens. Anyway, it's a reworking of the Megahex suit from the Gaim/Drive Movie Wars. But yeah, this first arc is a good turning point for the show, moving out of the initial rush of merch which is a staple now, and making signs of the Arcs beyond that. Fuwa gets his near death experience to start prodding him into a slightly less irrationally-angry gorilla-man-hybrid, Aruto gets his giant robot and some respect from the villains, and Yua begins her journey into plot hook. I joke, but early Zero-One is pretty good in how it uses the episodic format to flesh out the world, and setting the stage better for MBJR's big push against it, while giving Aruto an ideal of something to fight for. Also also, Punching Kong is one of my favourite 01 suits and it dosn't deserve to be a forgotten upgrade form, it's tragic. |
06-27-2022, 03:11 PM | #186 |
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Oh right, this case is me forgetting.... english itself. Blade is pronounced /bleɪd/, not /blaed/ (can't use that combined letter).
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 9 - ?PUT THAT LIFE IN THEIR HANDS?
The big question at the center of this episode ? are the self-aware Humagears inherently good or inherently evil ? gets the best possible answer: Neither. No one's inherently anything, and if we're going to treat AIs with the same level of respect as people, we have to concede that their choices are their own. Some are going to go bad, like Jin and Horobi. Some are going to go good, like the surgeon in this episode. Humanity just has to have faith that the overall choice is going to be good, and that we can try and create a framework of mutual respect to foster that outcome. Quote:
That idea of multiple conflicting inputs creating options to alter destinies, we even get that in the resolution to Fuwa's front-to-back, top-to-bottom ass-whupping from last episode. Fuwa was nearly killed by Humagears twelve years ago, but he was saved by a Humagear today. He can't lean on the All Humagears Are Evil thing anymore, because he's proof that they aren't. He gets to choose which input ? Evil or Good ? he gives the most weight to. And, yeah, he might still pick Evil! One good robot doesn't outweigh an army of killer ones, and that's his choice to make. But now he'll have to reckon with the possibility of Humagears being worth protecting, and that?s a step in the right direction.
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Too bad Yua's brief change-of-heart blew up in her face, however. She has a neat little scene with Izu about how Humagears will treat humanity if/when they become self-aware, and when she returns to Izu with some Not All Robots epiphany, Izu's there to ask why Yua faked a Humagear rampage and (maybe?) leaked it to the press. There's some shame to Yua in this scene, but it mostly seems to set up A.I.M.S.? Mysterious Benefactor from ZAIA Enterprises as a potential new rival for Aruto and Hiden Intelligence. It's left open-ended, and I don't really want to waste a thousand words trying to guess what happens next. Suffice to say that Yua's dirty work in the background is now very clearly in the foreground, much to her dismay.
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It's Fuwa's first form change, and I like how it denotes its power. It's bulky and dark on top, slim and white on the bottom. It's not the slight vertical asymmetry of Shooting Wolf, it's a massively powerful upper-half and nothing else. The red lines help break up the blocks of black, and reinforce the raw power of the design. It looks like it's going to hurt you, even more than Shooting Wolf's barely-restrained fury.
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06-27-2022, 03:27 PM | #187 |
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06-27-2022, 03:49 PM | #188 |
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To add my two cents to this discussion, I once left a comment in the discussion for a YouTube livestream on Mika Kikuchi’s YouTube (that guest starred Ayumi Beppu) and they actually read it out and said my username. Turns out that with a Japanese accent, it’s not that different. (They even figured out it was “eighty four” rather than “eight four”)
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06-27-2022, 06:34 PM | #189 |
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The main thing is, this is a war between 2 satellites, Zea and Ark. Zea is the one operating normal Humagears used by HIDEN, while Ark is the one who has misantrophy toward humans and is gearing the Humagears to exterminate them, like Horobi and Jin. Actually, as long as Humagears aren't in Ark's grasp, they'd do good.
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06-27-2022, 07:15 PM | #190 |
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But then, maybe I'm just getting defensive about this because I happen to like mecha stuff in tokusatsu. Granted, I'm hardly the biggest fan of these CG robot throwdowns in Rider either (although I recall liking this one better than most of the Time Mazine stuff at least?), but you know, that's no reason to go and diss Breaking Mammoth as a concept! It's clearly just too awesome for the show to do justice to! I'm genuinely fond of that design though. I like how even though its whole thing is being a mammoth (it's whole torso is just a mammoth's face, even), it's also mostly just Big Zero-One? Plenty of neon yellow, it's got Rising Hopper's antennae, it's literally wearing an oversized Zero-One Driver... It's a charming design all around, and there's something fun about it technically just being a form, specifically, rather than a machine counted separately from the rest. And while the actual fight scene with it isn't particularly impressive, it leaves a good enough impression anyway thanks to how well this two-parter builds up to that climax. I'm kind of struggling to think of what to really say about these episodes beyond that I like them a whole lot. They have a sort of mid-season-finale feel going on, with a (sometimes quite literal!) big scale, and a lot of different characters all taking steps forward in their development. The show also did take a week off after episode 9, so I think it might've genuinely been written with that intent. Which is a really polite way to do that? Waiting two weeks after a cliffhanger like Fuwa blowing up for example, that's fun, but it's also agonizing, right? Knowing you're going to have to take time off and deliberately parking the show is this really satisfying place for a bit, that's a nice gesture on Yuuya Takahashi's part. (And these episodes were by him again. Again, not that it makes a huge difference from Kakehi, but you know, for the record and all.)
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