[henshinzero]

If Gotchard was a mix of tarot cards & lawyers, The Hanged Man can represent the new rider who's either a fugitive or a serial killer on the lose framing the innocent fugitive.

The Devil could be used as a berserker form or the dark rider's final form.

[LevisNox]

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Originally Posted by The Chaos Entity

You?re misunderstanding what I?m saying. I?m saying that a character with Death as his main theme doesn?t make sense for what Death represents. Death would be better as an upgrade form.

Death can be a villain rider, hell it some of the best villains were once good people who had something huge happen to them.

A rider's story of change and wanting to do something whos oppose to the ideology of our main rider.

Death can work so you are wrong on the idea it cant be used.

Hell Kaito Kumon is a perfect char from kamen rider who was the final villain and his story has every aspect of death arcana within it.

[LevisNox]

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

If Gotchard was a mix of tarot cards & lawyers, The Hanged Man can represent the new rider who's either a fugitive or a serial killer on the lose framing the innocent fugitive.

The Devil could be used as a berserker form or the dark rider's final form.

Dude just stop with the bloody berserker rider form crap. Also dude what is with you this Kr not Amazons, do you got some kind of fetish or something cause its really concerning you wanting hard for some super dark shit for the main series

Also there is more then just devil there is extra tarrot cards that exist if we wanted to do a evil main rider

we could the Joker the anti fool card and hunger

Aeon i feel would play more of a role as a universal upgrade like jimber lemon arms

Hell hope could be a rider form for a rider.

[The Chaos Entity]

…clearly your knowledge of the Arcana begins and ends at Persona if you’re going to say things like that, so I’m just going to block and move on now, I think. Joker/Jester isn’t a real alternate Arcana - Atlus just made it up, and they also mistranslated Lust as Hunger…which no real deck does.

[LevisNox]

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Originally Posted by The Chaos Entity

?clearly your knowledge of the Arcana begins and ends at Persona if you?re going to say things like that, so I?m just going to block and move on now, I think. Joker/Jester isn?t a real alternate Arcana - Atlus just made it up, and they also mistranslated Lust as Hunger?which no real deck does.

Wow going to be rude huh i just brought up a char from kamen rider whos story follows word for word the idea of the death arcana

Also i made a valid argument and you telling me my knowledge only ends with persona when i do know stuff about the arcanas

Maybe your not the die hard Tarrot card person you said you were

AND on top of that some of the tarrots i mention arent sure in the official tarrot cards but they bloody exist

Lust is hunger not sorry for not remembering on top of my head

Hell universe, art Adjustment also bloody exist

[henshinzero]

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Originally Posted by LevisNox

Dude just stop with the bloody berserker rider form crap. Also dude what is with you this Kr not Amazons, do you got some kind of fetish or something cause its really concerning you wanting hard for some super dark shit for the main series

Alright I'm just out of control when I'm driven into hunger for the dark side of KR.

Sorry for that. At least Geats is feeling dark anyway.

[Grupletruge]

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Originally Posted by The Chaos Entity

?clearly your knowledge of the Arcana begins and ends at Persona if you?re going to say things like that

Bruuuuh, thats really weird to say. Like, you are missing huge obvious reasons why a rider based on death makes actual perfect sense. I'm not gonna waste my time explaining to you in depth something that takes mere moments to google, Heres the obvious OBVIOUS clincher:

DEATH IS A CARD THAT REPRESENTS *DRUMROLlLlLlLlLlL*
TRANSFORMATION....
HENSHIN?
Henshin, anybody? Where have i heard henshin before... wait what is it that henshin means again... hmm someone should google that, its a real stumper.

Don't be a dick if you don't wanna get in a dick fight.

EDIT: Okay i cant stop myself, heres another obvious one from another direction:
Kamen rider Decade was sent to kill all riders. Like, duh? Like, very much duh? Like... I am become DEATH, duh? It hurts to think that you though you were in the clear to turn your nose up and snoot that someone doesn't know anything about something when you clearly dont know anything about anything. Lets pretend this didn't happen, for your sake.

EDIT: Okay lowkey egg on my face, should've read back further, because noone else in here knows what they are talking about either, you actually might know more but you're just hinged on a very particular reading of how the arcana would translate into a rider series, when the arcana are inherently meant to be interpreted by the person using them. The fool idea isn't a bad one, but Death as one of the main riders feels absolutely dope to me, and rich in storytelling opportunities. I see the card as possibly being able to represent a kind of antihero in the context of a transforming hero show, but i do agree it'd be a poor villain. I honestly don't really see it as a power-up, but i suppose if we were to toss it in at the death/rebirth stage of the hero's journey it does make a kind of sense.

[Fredbob392]

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

Alright I'm just out of control when I'm driven into hunger for the dark side of KR.

Sorry for that. At least Geats is feeling dark anyway.

This is probably gonna come across a bit harsh, but I feel like you're kind of missing the whole point of Kamen Rider. Kuuga episode 35. Build episode 21. Zero-One episode episode 43. The moments of Riders losing control isn't a cool or badass thing. It's a tragedy

[MKDremare]

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

Sorry. Bad habit.

A bad habit is when you smack your lips too loud, or you forget to put away a dish or two. Constantly talking about violence and how much you want to see a character lose it is not a bad habit. Unless the real bad habit is just you ignoring everyone who brings up how concerning and uncomfortable they are with this, in which case, yes, that is a bad habit.

And I hardly believe that "sorry" when the literal next comment you make in this thread is this:

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

If Gotchard was a mix of tarot cards & lawyers, The Hanged Man can represent the new rider who's either a fugitive or a serial killer on the lose framing the innocent fugitive.

The Devil could be used as a berserker form or the dark rider's final form.

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

Alright I'm just out of control when I'm driven into hunger for the dark side of KR.

Sorry for that. At least Geats is feeling dark anyway.

Once again, please, relax, dial back on this craving for violence, and respect the people who aren't comfortable with you constantly mentioning your desire to see a Rider lose it and just violently eviscerate everything on a warpath. Stop trying to bring the topic of berserk forms up so often.

Like Fredbob392 said:

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Originally Posted by Fredbob392

This is probably gonna come across a bit harsh, but I feel like you're kind of missing the whole point of Kamen Rider. Kuuga episode 35. Build episode 21. Zero-One episode episode 43. The moments of Riders losing control isn't a cool or badass thing. It's a tragedy

Wanton blind violence isn't supposed to be this cool thing you admire. It is quite literally shown as a negative thing, especially in the seasons where there're berserk forms. And when these berserk forms are finally controlled, that's when it's shown as a triumph.

[LevisNox]

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

Alright I'm just out of control when I'm driven into hunger for the dark side of KR.

Sorry for that. At least Geats is feeling dark anyway.

dude YOU BEEN TOLD FOUR FUCKING TIMES and you keep GOING

At this point STOP SAYING SORRY your not sorry