[Paladin]

Ace recruits Keiwa and Michinaga for a contest to root out remaining Riders and Jyamato.

[Mesnick]

Watched the last three episodes. Unsubscribe first on the previous two. In general, I liked getting rid of the DGP, although I still think that the number of its employees with incomprehensible hierarchy and powers could be reduced. Ace's final form and abilities are awesome, but the weapon looks rather ridiculous. Eh, a better gunblade than Wizard has not yet appeared in riders. Asa himself came out so well in these two episodes because he had to play something other than calm superiority and indignant screaming. In a conversation with my mother, I almost believed him. But only almost. Whether the actor did not hold out the scene, or I did not have enough attachment to the character. But overall it looked interesting.

[Mesnick]

In general, the description of the last arc is more like a plot for a V-cinema coming out after the show. By the way, "a world where everyone is happy?". This is the wish of Keiwa in his first game. I remember that he was then severely criticized, but something tells me that these claims will not apply to Geats. For once, Ace can be compared to Tendo, as he asks his sister to cook for himself and completely ignores her wishes. Keiwa's desire to punish the Goddess smacks of obsession. And, even if PunkJack looms in the background, we have to admit that the fifth rider in the show is still Nudge, because he has more screen time.

[DreadBringer]

Like that this episode gives equal and clear focus on the cast, dunno if this answers the complaints for those feeling lately there's only plot and twists.

There's actually more effort and struggle needed for Ace to achieve his new goal now to make everyone happy in the name of his parents. With the starter that he has limits in using his power, like only being able to retrieve Tycoon and Buffa's ID Cores for now, and even then he ends up hungry for that, eating up a bunch of bowls to get himself full too. Tsumuri outright said that there's only much that he can change alone. The stakes are still there then, especially that Ace might be vulnerable to Suel's group when he needs to recharge, and both Mitsume and him seem to have normal human body, they're squishy wizards.

Regarding his actions now, he wants to run his own DGP, and the reason is actually to just wipe out the remaining Jamatos, without giving rewards for those who join him. He seems to really emphasize the no rewards part, I guess likely due to his claim in ep. 8 that no one is going to actually sacrifice themselves for others. He's a realist but that leans to cynicism a bit. And as usual he doesn't tell others how to act and expects people to reach their own moral conclusions, which'd be also why he returns the memories of each Riders as he insists they should decide their own fate, not admins. This'd also mean he foils Michinaga's plan, to end desires and free will to "stop conflict", that he praises in ep. 36 though.

And so far, he's being actually good to others too in pursuit of his current goal, like taking care of the people there and telling them they're safe, but dunno what's he's thinking for now that it has to be a DGP to fight off Jamatos. It's ironically like Beroba, not in vileness ofc, but that both use games as a means to accomplish plans like her using JGP to get Vision Drivers. If he's serious about his current goal, then it means he shouldn't agree on underhanded methods that brought misfortune for unlucky few though, not only from others worse but also himself. If he still agrees, then it means he's an utilitarian.

So far, Ace keeps Tsumuri as his own sidekick, like Samas was to Niramu (and now Suel), of which according to both, the audience and management team has actually left now, but the Grand End hasn't been completed yet. Still a bit confused about the DGP and management being gone, because they do still have to take care of current era to bring Tsumuri as the new Goddess. Or that the DGP now only sends few needed people, like Jit by Samas. Would be the case of 10-minutes retirement for villains (and likely some supporters such as Ziin) to not seriously leaving this era yet, like Win suggested for Suel of course.

By technicality Ace only mentions Tsumuri as the present staff DGP because Win is classified as a former DGP staff instead? According to Win, Ace is pulling a dirty business to not reward the workers, but banter aside, I thought dirty business can be the opposite of them bribing someone so that they'd do their biddings, especially if it's an offer they can't refuse. Though as Ace said, there are still benefits that can be gained from helping a good cause, like happiness that money can't buy. Good causes also can have inherent benefit if it succeeds, though it doesn't necessarily reduce the genuineness of those involved (e.g. those who feel good for doing good deeds). Though Win interacts more with Ace in this scene, seems that Win and Tsumuri are also now consistent partners, of which perhaps should have them discuss over Win's readiness to spill things out vs Tsumuri's secrecy.

The preview summary got me confused over why Keiwa is established as conflicted (along with Michinaga) to join a DGP without reward against still present Jamatos, because, well, he's the boy scout who is about performing good deeds to others to make them happy, his genuineness doesn't need to be questioned. Guess it'd be about how he can't bring back previous people anymore for no reward parts, that he's only limited to preventing that happening again. Fortunately, to me, he doesn't really go apeshit over Mitsume being gone now (albeit he still thinks she should pay for her sins... what are they pulling regarding this), or him learning that Ace is the current God of Creation. But dunno if there'd be still conflict regarding how Tsumuri states Ace's power requires a lot of retired player's desires, and maybe later Keiwa should recognize the limitations of that power established here if the conflict escalates. Though Michinaga of all people is the one who explains to him that Ace may fight alone to atone.

Neon got more presence than I expected in this episode, due to the preview summary leaving her out (but focusing on Keiwa and Michinaga), and the new opening now showing her 4th after Michinaga. So it seems that it's because she can't become a Rider yet with destroyed ID Core. With her memories now returned, she's now dealing with the worst outcome of DezaStar part of being permanently being unable to become Rider. She seems to take it in stride better, albeit she can't get depressed further than now, or probably also because her new wish revolves around everyone else, like her fans and Kyuun, as Keiwa questions what she wants for herself. Her complaint now is only that she's powerless to fight off Jamatos without it.

Her place searching is now about buying an apartment to live alone, but she doesn't go to the future yet. Her unfamiliarity with some things is highlighted again regarding how commoners live, like buying furnitures themselves, and the main dynamic for her with Sara here, who would help her shop and become her guide in teaching the ways commoners live. Though there are no comedic bits regarding this part that may can be executed. Now it's Neon's turn to hug Sara, and perhaps get her eyes opened more regarding how far someone can care for her. And here now she refers to Michinaga by his Rider name, not by human name. Her learning the news of her father being arrested for bribing governments to keep Jamatos secret, but Kurama zaibatsu losing power now as the DGP leaves, wonder if she'd learn the machinations of how her father and DGP work, especially regarding how wishes work in her being one.

Wonder if the premise of the DGP having no rewards now, other than Michinaga's conflicted status to join now, would be used to challenge Michinaga's bleak view of the Riders later with now that there are clear proof that there are Riders who'd genuinely do good deeds here. Other than him barging in to Keiwa's house without permission, he interacts rather amicably with him here, including praising his place. The preview summary really got me worried about him being lumped with Keiwa against fighting Jamatos, and seemingly get away scot free, based on ep. 36 of him being depicted as caring (by Ace), though at least for now he isn't shown suddenly charging to Jamatos to defend people like Keiwa and Neon do (no scenes of Win doing that yet too for now either).

And it puts a question mark when freaking Beroba's the one who tries to urge Michinaga into not leaving it all to Ace in taking care of Jamatos, unknown what'd be she pulling here, as she's the one who sponsors the Jamatos, but still urging him to apparently destroy them, other than revealing her wish to stay until getting ideal misery. Likewise, Kekera here also approaches Keiwa regarding his own wish, with Keiwa actually getting mad at his schemes. I'm worried that the next episode will have his actions validated that Keiwa got stronger by having Sara put in danger, getting his final form, and perhaps Keiwa thanking Kekera at the end or something (including if he ends up killing him, like Daiji to Kagerou in Revice). Kekera praising Keiwa for not leaving people be to Jamatos, being completely unaware that Neon's also doing the same. Wonder if these treacherous supporters would just perish due to seeing what they want.

After its impressive debut, it happens here that... a final form is used against mere mooks, Geats IX struggling against a mere Pawn Jamato, albeit at least he didn't put much effort in handling it like staying still. He also talks about Jamatos being evolved again, which turns out that Daichi followed his words of becoming Jamato when needed, and uses his intellect to become next gardener after Archimedel, aiming for Parasite Game. By this are single Pawn Jamatos now legitimately is hard to take on for any normal humans, like Ace bailing out Neon for this, though here she displays some skill to tackle it before getting overpowered. Keiwa too getting grounded albeit he gets more extended scenes fighting it. No thoughts yet from Keiwa or Neon about the civilians who actually got turned into Jamatos, or for now perhaps they'd think it's just a Jamato mimicking a dead people as in ep. 19, instead of actual civilians being infected. Wonder if there'd be a clash between them and Michinaga who likely can be ok with murdering civilians who get infected to take out the threat.

[Mesnick]

Also, considering that it is customary for the DGP to leave the unfinished Jamatos in an era where there are no riders or the opportunity for civilians to come to life at the end of the show, I think no one doubts that this reality show is evil.

[Sh Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Eh, a better gunblade than Wizard has not yet appeared in riders.

Onjuuken Suzune!

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

By the way, "a world where everyone is happy?". This is the wish of Keiwa in his first game. I remember that he was then severely criticized, but something tells me that these claims will not apply to Geats.

I think peace and happiness are slightly different. You could say Neon was peaceful when she lost her Kirakira and started obeying Irumi, but she wasn't happy, as she later told Kyuun to let her remember everything if it happened again. Like, what does peace mean for someone like Beroba, who can only be happy if others are suffering? Peace opposes sadism, yet sadism is necessary for happiness, as part of human nature. Ace is simply trying to keep the world safe from Jyamatos so people can find their own happiness and he's only using his own Kirakira for power. This would satisfy Michinaga, but it's probably not enough for Keiwa, who demands justice for the dead, something that would require a lot more Kirakira.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

And, even if PunkJack looms in the background, we have to admit that the fifth rider in the show is still Nudge, because he has more screen time.

The DX Monster Raise Buckle was paired with Punkjack's Core ID. If you think screen time means anything, then remember that a Tertiary Rider like Espada was absent for over 20 episodes.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Neon got more presence than I expected in this episode, due to the preview summary leaving her out (but focusing on Keiwa and Michinaga), and the new opening now showing her 4th after Michinaga. So it seems that it's because she can't become a Rider yet with destroyed ID Core.

There's a rumor that Neon is going to get a new Core ID, which makes me wonder if Na-Go's Core ID is permadead, like the Holy Wing Vistamp. I guess Hakubi won't be coming back anytime soon, but good to see that Sara is continuing to give support for Neon's happiness, now that disappearing is no longer an option. She still has an important role as the heart and being a Rider or not doesn't change that.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

I'm worried that the next episode will have his actions validated that Keiwa got stronger by having Sara put in danger, getting his final form, and perhaps Keiwa thanking Kekera at the end or something (including if he ends up killing him, like Daiji to Kagerou in Revice).

If anything happens to Sara, I definitely won't forgive Kekera.

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He also talks about Jamatos being evolved again, which turns out that Daichi followed his words of becoming Jamato when needed, and uses his intellect to become next gardener after Archimedel, aiming for Parasite Game.

I didn't even recognize Daichi at first without his glasses. Based on the weird veins across his face, looks like he might be going through Jyamafication, so maybe that comes with improved vision. Or he switched to contacts.

[Blade Fang]

Daichi really reminds me of Kabuto from Naruto series

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I think peace and happiness are slightly different.

In the original, he wrote: 平和な世界 Heiwana Sekai. "Heiwana" in addition to peaceful can also mean calm, harmonious, ideal and, in fact, happy. Keiwa, of course, is an idealist, but he seemed to be volunteering in a kindergarten, not anti-war demonstrations, so I doubt his pacifism and the correctness of the chosen translation. Rather, the difference is that Keiwa's desire is for a happy society, while Ace's desire is for everyone's individual happiness.
Also, didn't Ace declare happiness for everyone even before Jamato came along? Yes, and somehow this is a very pretentious characteristic for getting rid of forgotten monsters (he does not yet know about managers hunting for Tsumuri and Jamato-Daichi).

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The DX Monster Raise Buckle was paired with Punkjack's Core ID.

And Tycoon ID-Core was a Christmas present. It's just that Monster Buckle and Punkjack debuted at the same period of time.

[Deepsea]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

In general, the description of the last arc is more like a plot for a V-cinema coming out after the show. By the way, "a world where everyone is happy?". This is the wish of Keiwa in his first game. I remember that he was then severely criticized, but something tells me that these claims will not apply to Geats. For once, Ace can be compared to Tendo, as he asks his sister to cook for himself and completely ignores her wishes. Keiwa's desire to punish the Goddess smacks of obsession. And, even if PunkJack looms in the background, we have to admit that the fifth rider in the show is still Nudge, because he has more screen time.

TBH, I think Keiwa might be a jymato. I don't think he realizes it, but the fact he was able to strike buffa, and just the weirdness after his revival has made me formulate the theory.

(also yeah Nudge is defo the fifth, but Win has won my heart, so he's got that going for him)

[JusticeMagnum]

I honestly don't think screen time/significance matters at all in terms of determining what type of Rider a character is. Remember this is the same franchise where people try to argue that Chalice is the secondary of Blade due to his importance & connection to the main rider when lmao no it's Garren, like confirmed officially 100% it's Garren.

Reality is that a Riders role is whatever Toei/Bandai decides it to be and most likely in any future promo, or special, etc. it'll be PunkJack that'll be shown alongside the main 4. I can almost 110% guarantee Nudge Sparrow will never be acknowledged by Toei/Bandai in any meaningful way after Geats is over.