[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by GPTF01

Yes all out of universe reasons that cosmic fury also has but yet no one complains about mmpr 2 and 3 but instead makes excuses for them instead.

Only in this thread. I have not once, not twice, or even ten times come across statements that MMPR is the worst shows in the PR franchise.

[Sh Ranger]

Episode 1:

Looks like anybody who was worried about the Morphin' Masters bailing the Rangers out again can relax now. Bajilia managed to capture all six of them in the same place, which is a pretty big boast for a villain we only just met! I was also surprised to see that Black, Yellow and Pink were even alive, considering how Red mentioned that they'd lost some of their members and this is our first time seeing them outside of flashbacks. Does that mean there used to be even more than six?

Either way, the Rangers won't be defeating Zedd with any manufactured miracles this time. Pretty much everything goes wrong for them here, to the point that getting the Cosmic Fury Zords feels more like a reprieve than a victory. So, not only are the Masters captured, but Ollie has been brainwashed again, Zayto who was revived less than half an hour ago has been flung to unknown space and Javi had to vaporize his right arm to summon those aforementioned Zords.

Episode 2:

Fortunately, they also have Billy and Mick helping out now. Billy and Solon made a new prosthetic arm for Javi (which is in fact that arm we saw in the poster), while Mick is searching the local galaxies for Zayto. I wonder how Javi would get along with Dillon, a fellow cyborg Black Ranger with little sister. How will Warden Buzzkill react when he finds out what happened?

It's humorous how Aiyon treats Billy as a junior, even after the other Rangers point out that Aiyon was unconscious for most of his long life. I appreciate how the comedy seems more balanced here, like even Jane and J-Borg don't take too much screentime away from the serious plot. Squilia being a streamer isn't something I expected either, but it kind of works in Mucus' and Slyther's absence (hope they come back!). Look at her Lord Zedd shirt!

Somehow, the situation gets even worse for the Rangers. It's basically a repeat of the Dino Fury Season 1 finale with Dinohenge getting destroyed, but of course, no Master Green to throw them a save. Only the triceratops statue gets spared due to Ollie still being brainwashed. Solon had to emergency transport the base to another galaxy and without the Rangers' powers, they're stuck there, with Fern.

Episode 3:

Amelia is red now and guess what, there's a perfectly good explanation for that.... Which we actually get to hear! I had already accepted her as Cosmic Fury Red based on the leadership qualities she displayed in Dino Fury, but it's cool how these 3 episodes draw attention to that by forcing her to take Zayto's place. The way she takes charge of saving Ollie and trying to cure him and being supportive of emotionally distressed Aiyon. Seems like the only one who didn't see those qualities was Amelia herself, but I think the Morphin' Grid was right to choose her for sure.

Kudos to Billy as well for creating the Cosmic Fury powers and I guess, giving all those fans who were ticked off by the dinosaur motif someone to blame, haha. And y'know what, I'll just say it, I actually don't mind the new suits, generally speaking. I'll even say that I prefer them to the Kyuranger suits, which is kind of a low bar IMO!

Evil Ollie is pretty interesting to watch, with how Ollie is already known to be a smug know-it-all a**hole sometimes and then the evil part turns that up even further. Like, I think the actor does a good job making him seem intimidating and deceptive as a temporary villain in a way that I didn't get from Evil Javi or Izzy. He reminds me a lot of Evil Tommy actually.

This was totally a strong start! Looking forward to watching the next few episodes!

[GPTF01]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Only in this thread. I have not once, not twice, or even ten times come across statements that MMPR is the worst shows in the PR franchise.

What? You sound like you are trying to disagree with me but you just said the same thing?

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by GPTF01

What? You sound like you are trying to disagree with me but you just said the same thing?

What I mean is that you need to look at the situation from a broader perspective. MMPR-2 was criticized for their decision with costumes very often, and the fact that this is not here is explained by the fact that the topic about another show was created quite recently. Plus, I also disagree with the idea that they should be judged the same because the shows have radically different goals. MMPR-2 wanted to maintain a huge audience, while Cosmic Fury is counting on attracting new (or rather returning former) fans. And therefore, using Kyuranger suits now is more justified than using Dairanger suits in 1994.

[GPTF01]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

What I mean is that you need to look at the situation from a broader perspective. MMPR-2 was criticized for their decision with costumes very often, and the fact that this is not here is explained by the fact that the topic about another show was created quite recently. Plus, I also disagree with the idea that they should be judged the same because the shows have radically different goals. MMPR-2 wanted to maintain a huge audience, while Cosmic Fury is counting on attracting new (or rather returning former) fans. And therefore, using Kyuranger suits now is more justified than using Dairanger suits in 1994.

that makes literally no sense as for one i was not talking about this thread that at the time i commented had maybe 3 replies so of course it would not have any arguments as a whole

i was talking about the fandom at large. the amount of people that have ever complained about the season 2 is an extremely small sub set while the amount complaining about cosmic fury is the majority. trying to toss this "well technically" as an argument does not really change any thing at all.

and yes they 100% should be judged the same showing favor to one of the other does neither any favors

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by GPTF01

that makes literally no sense as for one i was not talking about this thread that at the time i commented had maybe 3 replies so of course it would not have any arguments as a whole.

i was talking about the fandom at large. the amount of people that have ever complained about the season 2 is an extremely small sub set while the amount complaining about cosmic fury is the majority. trying to toss this "well technically" as an argument does not really change any thing at all.

Majority of the three replies? Plus, come on, Cosmic Fury only came out two days ago. Even if absolutely everyone criticized this decision (although, in my opinion, the majority greeted the show quite positively), there would still be no more negative comments than MMPR-2, which viewers have been criticizing for refusing to change costumes ever since they found out about Sentai. More recently, YouTuber hunterkiller1440 released his fan reimagining of MMPR-2 with Dairanger costumes just two months ago. And if criticism of MMPR-2 does not come across so often, it is only because there are not so many reasons to talk about the show twenty-nine years ago.

[GPTF01]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Majority of the three replies? Plus, come on, Cosmic Fury only came out two days ago. Even if absolutely everyone criticized this decision (although, in my opinion, the majority greeted the show quite positively), there would still be no more negative comments than MMPR-2, which viewers have been criticizing for refusing to change costumes ever since they found out about Sentai. More recently, YouTuber hunterkiller1440 released his fan reimagining of MMPR-2 with Dairanger costumes just two months ago. And if criticism of MMPR-2 does not come across so often, it is only because there are not so many reasons to talk about the show twenty-nine years ago.

those are 2 separate statements my guy


the 3 comments statements was about this thread. it's own statement separated from the second part where i talk about the fandom at large outside of this message board


i see there is zero reason to continue this if that is hard to notice or figure out. as i have no idea how i could have made it even more clear.

[Sh Ranger]

Episode 4:

If this season is doing the Mystic Force thing of having 2-word episode titles, then this episode title is chea ting. Or, now that I think about it, maybe it's actually a clever way of showing that the teamwork is broken.

Two out of the four monsters on Ollie's team are adapted from Sentai generals. There's Scorpio from Kyuranger who has a very different personality and Nalia from Zyuohger, which sadly makes me think the latter show isn't going to get adapted. Unless they write her out, but that would mean they'd have to make new footage for the monster enlargement scenes.

Speaking of Ollie's team, it's interesting how this episode makes a point that even though he's evil now, he's still operating cognitively like a Ranger, preaching teamwork and tactics that his allies don't seem to understand. Lord Zedd claims this methodology is the reason he keeps losing, like evil and teamwork are mutually exclusive. Like, I believe that he believes that, but based on the fact that Ollie survived the encounter while all his allies got destroyed by not following his advice, maybe Zedd should reconsider his own methodology instead.

For critics of the Cosmic Fury suits, maybe they'd appreciate the more familiar aesthetic of the new Dino Fury Evil Blue Ranger? Feels like they're setting up Cosmic Fury Blue to be the Sixth Ranger at this point, since even Zenith debuts before him. Turns out Ollie's new triceratops-themed weapon actually comes from his Evil Blue suit, even though we see Cosmic Fury Blue using it in the poster as well. I wonder if Evil Blue claiming that Red doesn't suit Amelia is a shot at the people who thought she was unfit to lead?

They rescued Zayto, but Aiyon is concerned that something is wrong with him. Can't read his mind anymore. The tree's ominous line about enjoying the time he has left. The fact that his white Dino Fury suit was called Ghost Ranger. Aiyon has an almost infallible perception of anything that can go wrong, so if he's worried, then we should definitely be worried. Maybe the Dino Master Saber killed Zayto extra hard, as the Masters creating a weapon deadly to its wielder wouldn't be a problem if they could revive him like they did for Steel. It would explain why they only revived Zayto after Zedd's escape 6 months later, instead of doing it right away.

Episode 5:

And there's Bungray from Zyuohger as Ollie's new ally. Like Javi, he also has a prosthetic arm, since I guess the clone-making arm is still attached to the Cubal suit. Honestly, if Super Mega Force can remove Basco, then I think Bungray is even more expendable to a potential adaption, considering he's not even a Deathgalien.

Izzy singing heavy metal to an audience of monsters wasn't something I expected to see here, but it's entertaining to see what kind of creative crazy episode plots the staff can come up with when they don't have Sentai ground fight footage to rely on. We get some development for the Fern/Izzy dynamic, with Fern trying to be more useful and equal while Izzy sees her as someone who needs her protection. It's not as big a problem as Amelia/Ollie currently being morally opposed, but I can understand why Fern feels an imbalance in their relationship, considering they used to be competitive rivals. Hmm, if only she could become a Ranger....

Fitting that Zenith gets to be the first one to pilot the Cosmic Dragon Zord, as Rocky also went from tyrannosaurus to dragon. I like the beige color on him, but maybe purple would've made more sense to match this Zord and also as a reference to his connection to Void Knight's power.

[DreamSword]

I just got done binging all of it. All I'll say for now is that I came out it in utter despair and that I feel like this is easily the weakest season of the entire franchise.

[Sh Ranger]

Episode 6:

Oh hey, Fern became a Ranger already. Everybody joins Cosmic Fury before Ollie apparently. Orange's helmet is repainted from Red's, except the gold details are different to show that she uses the power of solonosaurus instead of ankylosaurus, so I think it's distinct enough. Her weapon is just a big rake though, which doesn't seem as practical as the others. It does have a chain function that provides some extra range, but I imagine that also makes it more difficult to hit.

Zayto used the power of Master Red's staff to find Solon's location in the caves, which as Billy points out is an ability only the Morphin Masters should have. Reminds me of Mack becoming the Red Sentinel Ranger, with the implication here that Zayto might not be a regular Rafkonian anymore. He also got dizzy after, so this must be connected to the tree's warning, like there's a limit to how much power he can use. However, I can't blame him for taking the risk, since Solon was way too close to becoming scuttleworm lunch.

Episode 7:

So, there's this Deathryuger counterpart, the Dark Ranger, who I vaguely recall seeing on the cover of one of the PR comics somewhere. As I haven't been keeping up on comic lore since Shattered Grid and I've yet to watch Dino Charge either, this guy is totally new to me. Anyway, he's in a love triangle with Squilia and the counterpart to Kuervo from Kyuranger, which ends with Dark Ranger revealing himself as a catfish and abducting Squilia, while Kuervo is so pathetic that Tarrick doesn't even need Void Knight powers to destroy him. This subplot is so random!

More on Zayto's condition, now that Aiyon and Solon have basically forced the truth out of him. So yeah, his life is on a timer, which hastens towards the end everytime he uses Morphin' Master magic. He speculates that the Masters might be able to cure him once they're rescued, but with the severe threat to Earth from Zedd, Zayto continues to use his magic often and swore Aiyon and Solon to secrecy so the others won't worry about him. Damn! Did the Dino Master Saber merge Zayto with the Grid? Did the Masters bestow upon him their power, knowing there was a possibility that Bajilia would capture them? There's so much they're not telling.

Episode 8:

Mucus and Slyther are back! And they're officially good guys! Squilia's gimmick kind of got old after a few episodes, so I'm glad this calamari was only the appetizer before the real main course. Can this show get any better? Mucus regrettably becoming human is even more tragic when you consider how quickly Rafkonians integrated in to human culture, so she probably could've waited a few months and then people would've accepted her as her Sporix self. Surprising to see PR tackle a moral about body dysmorphia here, but I think it's important to show that even if you think someone looks okay, they may hate the way they look and their feelings are valid. Of course, being indestructible also has its benefits, especially for a magic show. Nice of Zayto to use his magic to reverse Mucus' change, similar to how Master Green turned Steel human like he wanted.

Tarrick's line, "I know how evil they are cause I was their evil boss", sounds totally hypocritical though, like, sure, Mucus is originally one of the Sporix that destroyed Rafkon, but Tarrick literally created Slyther with the intention to commit evil deeds, so, Tarrick is pretty much entirely to blame for that until Void Queen took over. Did he learn nothing from how hard he had to try to make Zayto believe he changed, when Zayto was also hypocritical for ignoring his own liability in Rafkon's destruction? These guys should be a little more self-aware.

Mucus and Slyther, while disguised as a lawyer and Squilia (since the real one was recently destroyed) respectively, infiltrated Zedd's palace and blew up the triceratops statue to try and sever Ollie's corrupted connection to the Grid, but apparently he's still evil. I don't buy it though. I think Ollie is pretending now and that he only claimed "make them suffer for betraying their emperor" as an evil-sounding excuse to prevent Zedd from destroying Slyther (since Mucus would've been fine regardless). It could be ironic and satisfying if Ollie actually uses Zedd's evil advice against him.

Zayto's secret is now fully out in the open to his team, by his own confession after realizing how hard it must've been for Aiyon and Solon to have to act like nothing was wrong while they were actually worried about him. Reminds me of Kiramager where Takamichi tried to delay Mabusheena's curse by keeping her unaware, but the others were depressed for keeping it to themselves. If you want to keep such a painful secret to yourself, then that's your will, but once someone else finds out, then it's not fair to make them suffer for your secret, so I'm glad Zayto apologized to them here.