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#241 |
Kamen Ride Or Die
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Chicago, IL
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SHOTARO HIDARI HARDBOILED DELUSION DIARY EPISODE 6 - “WHAT IF AKIKO WAS AN IDOL?”
![]() Not my fave? It’s a relatively straightforward story (for a Delusion Diary – that means it’s still insane) that’s just Akiko performing briefly as an idol, and then marrying the Triceratops Dopant. There’s no real twist beyond the marriage announcement, and even the lead-in of someone following Akiko – which is the reason she goes to Shotaro in the first place – never gets resolved. It’s thin, even by the standards of a five-minute bonus feature. Cute to see Terui and Philip as super-invested fans-slash-bodyguards, but the answer to this episode’s title is pretty much She Would Be An Idol I Guess. |
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#242 |
Alias: ZeroEnchiladas
Join Date: Aug 2015
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Honestly the Triceratops Dopant is a top tier design, so it being a marriage partner is a-ok in my book!
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#243 |
Kamen Ride Or Die
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 6,714
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Honestly, I think I prefer it to Akiko's actual spouse.
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#244 |
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Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,530
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About dismissing Liar as just small fry before, indeed his power is utilized in more destructive manner here, at least among the main cast, tricking W that Accel is a Dopant which makes W turn against him. Akiko tries to interfere with her dual slippers, both left and right, but got tricked by Liar as well to make her think that she's a tanuki... redirecting her into attacking a tanuki statue. I don't know about Liar deciding to trick Akiko as well, a normal human interfering in a 2 Riders fight which won't seem to be impactful, unless somehow the slipper slap will return W back to his senses. Terui realizes that the reason he thought he beat Liar was the Liar's ability as well, making Terui believed that he connected his A-Slasher and he shattered his Memory when he did neither. Liar's motivation is just to be a sadist who revels in other people's suffering and collecting their tears in washi papers.
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KAMEN RIDER W EPISODE 24 - “L ON THE LIPS - YOU’RE THE LIAR”
It’s nice that this one can end with the realization that Jimmy and Yukiho aren’t in a parasocial relationship, they’re in a burgeoning love story. It’s a testament to how we lie to ourselves to avoid putting ourselves out there, and mistake our own desires for something else. That, along with the Liar Dopant’s crush on Wakana, and Doctor Slenderman’s whole Maybe Inappropriate For Kids medical examination of Saeko’s Maybe Inappropriate For Kids Dopant form, gives us an episode that runs the gamut of love stories: from unrealized puppy love to Basically Second Base. Quote:
Like, highlight of the highlights has to be Shotaro chasing after Jimmy on the beach, with voiceover of Shotaro mentioning how weird it is for these two to be chasing one another on a beach at sunset while carrying a white guitar as birds take off. It’s very weird! But it’s the best thing, because it’s all Shotaro trying to tell a deluded try-hard that he knows what it’s like, and to maybe stop leaning into every melodramatic idea in his head. (I love that this is basically Jimmy’s version of Shotaro quitting both his jobs in the Begins Night movie, and Shotaro immediately knows what stupid way he chose to theatrically turn his back on the past, so he knows where Jimmy would be. Amazing.) It’s a charming sequence that leverages Shotaro’s most embarrassing/memorable traits to help a deluded fraud realize that the point of art isn’t fame, it’s expressing what’s in your heart. This is Shotaro telling a guy not to let other people’s perception change your dreams, and it’s as sweet and poignant as it is vaguely regrettable. (Shotaro could maybe stand to dial back some of his cosplay detective stuff!)
And for the show.... while Jimmy shows up at Fuuuuuutic Idol, to dedicate a song for Yukiho, the show doesn't let the audience hear his singing lol, but instead the show plays Cyclone Effect while showing W and Accel's battle against Liar. The reason Cyclone Effect was played instead is because Jimmy's still terrible, as the judge speaks the truth now without the influence of Liar, but they admit that he's passionate and encourages him. Yukiho notes that it's a love song, and Shotaro reports that Jimmy now works in the same recycling plant as her. Is this supposed to be a message of focusing on those who love you and forget the ones who don't? Quote:
Beyond that, we get the iconic climax of Philip dressing up as Wakana, because – as Terui of all people points out – Philip actually cuts a more Wakana silhouette than Akiko does. (Not wrong! Philip’s a great Wakana!) It’s a neat idea, tricking the Liar Dopant, and it just plays into this two-parter’s hard work on crafting a story that’s both clever in the moment, and thoughtful overall. This was a weird story, but one that is remarkably coherent and always kept a sense of stakes. One of my favorite W two-parters! Truly!
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-The Saeko examination scene… hoo boy. INCREDIBLY horny, at a level where I sort of can’t believe it made it to air. Dude is basically drooling over the Taboo suit – itself pretty goddamn risque! – while he grips and caresses it. Fun twist that his kink is Dopants, but, like… my dude. At least Saeko was also into it?
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#245 |
Echoing Oni
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 10,687
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The Liar arc is as far as I made it the last time I tried rewatching W. I got distracted by something else; not really sure what. Definitely one of the stories that sticks in my head the most, especially realizing that the scene where Isaka pervs over Taboo was in it. Some amazing humor in here between Jimmy's awful singing and the plot to catch the Dopant. I'm not watching the TVN subs again, but I definitely remember the episode 24 sub ending with an inserted bit of their editor just staring at the screen in confusion.
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#246 |
Some guy. I'm alright.
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5,197
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Have now caught up again, and while I was going to talk about how much I liked the Liar two-parter, seeing that you liked it as well means that I am instead contractually obligated to say that both episodes were dumb and stupid and dumb and that no one should like them. So there.
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#247 |
Kamen Ride Or Die
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 6,714
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Yukiho claims Jimmy's the one that brought joy in her depression, thus she wanted to return the favor, by asking Liar for help. I feel like this isn't enough explanation for her attraction to Jimmy and his music, she just listens and somehow being the weird one to get attached to that, I mean the scene doesn't seem to play it in parodic ways, so I'd want a proper explanation in this, I feel that, bringing joy in people isn't limited to music.
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Have now caught up again, and while I was going to talk about how much I liked the Liar two-parter, seeing that you liked it as well means that I am instead contractually obligated to say that both episodes were dumb and stupid and dumb and that no one should like them. So there.
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#248 |
Kamen Ride Or Die
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Chicago, IL
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KAMEN RIDER W EPISODE 25 - “P’S GAME - THE STICKY FINGERED DOLL”
![]() Like, that’s almost the entire post, that screenshot. It’s hard to say anything except It’s The Doll Episode, you know? The visual is such a winner that this episode is almost entirely that, and only a little around the edges with which to compete. (Saeko and Doctor Slenderman, plus a very brief scene of Wakana being compelled to submit her Driver for augmentation. It’s incredibly tangential, and all set-up for upcoming stories, as the Sonozaki stuff has generally been of late.) The concept of a killer doll on a murder spree… like, what the hell else is there to say? The doll brawls with a middle-aged woman and shoves her out a window; the doll causes a car accident by trying murder the driver; the doll knocks out both Makura and Jinno, because we’re still in a phase of the show where Shotaro and Philip’s identity is sort of a secret; the doll SOMEHOW GETS A KNIFE; the doll almost single-handedly defeats Accel and Double in a fight; the doll grabs Double’s gun and blasts both Riders; the doll gets a Memory Break to the face. Like, again, what the hell else is there to say? Perfect episode! — DIE-A MEMORIES ![]() -Oh, okay, I won’t leave it that short. -I really liked that this episode decides to tell an Akiko/Terui amidst easily its least-serious physical threat to date (those sound effects!), because I’ve always found Terui And The Chief to be a remarkably unserious romantic pairing in the past. It felt like the show just decided in the late run that they were a couple, and decided in the post-series film that they were getting married. I don’t remember ever feeling like they made any sense as a romantic couple, between Terui’s lack of outward emotion and Akiko’s *gestures to 94% of Akiko performances across fourteen years of work*. It was like he was married to an actual middle-schooler, and it was sort of embarrassing to watch. -Now, though… I don’t know, man, I sort of get it. She’s ridiculous, but it’s hard not to find her insanity charming in an opposite way to how Terui acknowledges Shotaro’s prowess while bemoaning his demeanor. Akiko’s dopey as hell, but I can sort of see how Terui would be all in on that sort of lady. He’s not humorless, he’s just wry. I think he digs her high-energy pseudo-competence, not least because Shotaro sincerely does not. (Sometimes relationships start as a way to spite a third party! It’s not the weirdest reason to start dating someone!) Maybe it’s just a factor of me finding Akiko so much more enjoyable this go-around, but I can sort of see the chemistry between them two now. -I especially love that Terui is the only one to believe Akiko’s story – I think a big part of Shotaro’s lack of belief was that it was happening to Akiko – while also immediately undercutting her appreciation by pointing out that it was mostly based on evidence, not on blind faith. It’s a start? -Terui’s idea of police investigation is going up to the father of a dead child and loudly proclaiming in public that the father never loved his dead child at all, just to see if a murder doll comes out from the interaction. Somehow, thanks to his debut episodes, not the worst bout of police work we’ve seen out of Fuuto P.D.’s hotshot detective… |
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#249 |
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Join Date: Jan 2020
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KAMEN RIDER W EPISODE 25 - “P’S GAME - THE STICKY FINGERED DOLL”
It’s hard to say anything except It’s The Doll Episode, you know? The visual is such a winner that this episode is almost entirely that, and only a little around the edges with which to compete. (Saeko and Doctor Slenderman, plus a very brief scene of Wakana being compelled to submit her Driver for augmentation. It’s incredibly tangential, and all set-up for upcoming stories, as the Sonozaki stuff has generally been of late.) The concept of a killer doll on a murder spree… like, what the hell else is there to say? The doll brawls with a middle-aged woman and shoves her out a window; the doll causes a car accident by trying murder the driver; the doll knocks out both Makura and Jinno, because we’re still in a phase of the show where Shotaro and Philip’s identity is sort of a secret; the doll SOMEHOW GETS A KNIFE; the doll almost single-handedly defeats Accel and Double in a fight; the doll grabs Double’s gun and blasts both Riders; the doll gets a Memory Break to the face. Like, again, what the hell else is there to say? Quote:
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Now, though… I don’t know, man, I sort of get it. She’s ridiculous, but it’s hard not to find her insanity charming in an opposite way to how Terui acknowledges Shotaro’s prowess while bemoaning his demeanor. Akiko’s dopey as hell, but I can sort of see how Terui would be all in on that sort of lady. He’s not humorless, he’s just wry. I think he digs her high-energy pseudo-competence, not least because Shotaro sincerely does not. (Sometimes relationships start as a way to spite a third party! It’s not the weirdest reason to start dating someone!) Maybe it’s just a factor of me finding Akiko so much more enjoyable this go-around, but I can sort of see the chemistry between them two now. Quote:
-I especially love that Terui is the only one to believe Akiko’s story – I think a big part of Shotaro’s lack of belief was that it was happening to Akiko – while also immediately undercutting her appreciation by pointing out that it was mostly based on evidence, not on blind faith. It’s a start?
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#250 |
Standing By
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
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KAMEN RIDER W EPISODE 25 - ?P?S GAME - THE STICKY FINGERED DOLL?
-I really liked that this episode decides to tell an Akiko/Terui amidst easily its least-serious physical threat to date (those sound effects!), because I?ve always found Terui And The Chief to be a remarkably unserious romantic pairing in the past. It felt like the show just decided in the late run that they were a couple, and decided in the post-series film that they were getting married. I don?t remember ever feeling like they made any sense as a romantic couple, between Terui?s lack of outward emotion and Akiko?s *gestures to 94% of Akiko performances across fourteen years of work*. It was like he was married to an actual middle-schooler, and it was sort of embarrassing to watch. -Now, though? I don?t know, man, I sort of get it. She?s ridiculous, but it?s hard not to find her insanity charming in an opposite way to how Terui acknowledges Shotaro?s prowess while bemoaning his demeanor. Akiko?s dopey as hell, but I can sort of see how Terui would be all in on that sort of lady. He?s not humorless, he?s just wry. I think he digs her high-energy pseudo-competence, not least because Shotaro sincerely does not. (Sometimes relationships start as a way to spite a third party! It?s not the weirdest reason to start dating someone!) Maybe it?s just a factor of me finding Akiko so much more enjoyable this go-around, but I can sort of see the chemistry between them two now.
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