[ZeroWolf]

There's also the possibility, however, of the show not surviving as the higher ups might have saw no value in it and just cancelled it. For every positive outcome there's sadly a hundred negative one.

There's also the chance that even if WB bought it back then, that things actually progressed as they did in our timeline given the same mindsets. Though given what kind of company WB is now, it might have been for the best otherwise PR may have been written off for the Tax like Bat Girl and Scoob 2!

[Bandaiman]

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Originally Posted by ZeroWolf

There's also the possibility, however, of the show not surviving as the higher ups might have saw no value in it and just cancelled it. For every positive outcome there's sadly a hundred negative one.

There's also the chance that even if WB bought it back then, that things actually progressed as they did in our timeline given the same mindsets. Though given what kind of company WB is now, it might have been for the best otherwise PR may have been written off for the Tax like Bat Girl and Scoob 2!

You never know alternate history can take a different turn lol. Maybe if WB bought FOX Family then maybe Zaslav doesn't buy WB haha.

[Bandaiman]

But if PR does return I do think we could be moving the series to Canada.

[Talisman]

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That seems like such a backwards way of going about things. While making multiple projects is common sense for a production company, the idea to let a successful franchise simply coast along on bare minimum to hope to get another hit is just risky gambling.

PR was an overnight sensation, and Saban should've used that opportunity to really bring the brand to newer heights, rather than shoddily attempt to recapture that lightning in a bottle. The fact that, even after becoming a billion dollar brand, the show's budget remained absolutely microscopic astounds me.

There's a saying about messengers and the shooting thereof. I think it goes, "Don't".

I didn't say it was a good method, I just said that's the method they went with and against all odds it paid off. I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ultimately applies here.

Again, not an endorsement, just the facts of the matter.

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Remember...this is a guy who freely shafted his actors to the point that some of them left voluntarily cause he wasn't willing to budge in terms of payouts!

He was never willing to put in too much cause he was solely focused on the returns. I give him credit in one thing, and that's the Valerie Vernon thing cause I think he did come correct there.

Exactly all of this. Haim was a notorious cheapskate to the point where he tried to screw Gene Simmons out of a deal, literally across the table from the guy. There's a reason why so much of Saban's output before and after PR was dub production; it's dirt cheap and usually nets a pretty good return. The man and his production company by extension would not spend a single cent if they could find any way to avoid it, and they worked hard in that regard.

And that, unfortunately, set the standard for which all of Power Rangers would be made under going forward, plain and simple. It worked when it did because it was in that perfect storm that was the Early 90s. It faltered as time went on because it was no longer as unique because the Anime Boom was in full boom and fulfilled much of its niche, including low costs. And as stated elsewhere in the thread, while moving production to Canada would've been cheaper - think about just how many shows at the turn of the millennium, BIG shows no less, were and even now are filmed in Canada - Moving to New Zealand was cheapest, and that's the Saban and thus Power Rangers way since day one.

[Bandaiman]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

There's a saying about messengers and the shooting thereof. I think it goes, "Don't".

I didn't say it was a good method, I just said that's the method they went with and against all odds it paid off. I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ultimately applies here.

Again, not an endorsement, just the facts of the matter.



Exactly all of this. Haim was a notorious cheapskate to the point where he tried to screw Gene Simmons out of a deal, literally across the table from the guy. There's a reason why so much of Saban's output before and after PR was dub production; it's dirt cheap and usually nets a pretty good return. The man and his production company by extension would not spend a single cent if they could find any way to avoid it, and they worked hard in that regard.

And that, unfortunately, set the standard for which all of Power Rangers would be made under going forward, plain and simple. It worked when it did because it was in that perfect storm that was the Early 90s. It faltered as time went on because it was no longer as unique because the Anime Boom was in full boom and fulfilled much of its niche, including low costs. And as stated elsewhere in the thread, while moving production to Canada would've been cheaper - think about just how many shows at the turn of the millennium, BIG shows no less, were and even now are filmed in Canada - Moving to New Zealand was cheapest, and that's the Saban and thus Power Rangers way since day one.

Well they left NZ lol so even the cheapest place for them wasn't good enough for them haha.

[Bandaiman]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

There's a saying about messengers and the shooting thereof. I think it goes, "Don't".

I didn't say it was a good method, I just said that's the method they went with and against all odds it paid off. I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ultimately applies here.

Again, not an endorsement, just the facts of the matter.



Exactly all of this. Haim was a notorious cheapskate to the point where he tried to screw Gene Simmons out of a deal, literally across the table from the guy. There's a reason why so much of Saban's output before and after PR was dub production; it's dirt cheap and usually nets a pretty good return. The man and his production company by extension would not spend a single cent if they could find any way to avoid it, and they worked hard in that regard.

And that, unfortunately, set the standard for which all of Power Rangers would be made under going forward, plain and simple. It worked when it did because it was in that perfect storm that was the Early 90s. It faltered as time went on because it was no longer as unique because the Anime Boom was in full boom and fulfilled much of its niche, including low costs. And as stated elsewhere in the thread, while moving production to Canada would've been cheaper - think about just how many shows at the turn of the millennium, BIG shows no less, were and even now are filmed in Canada - Moving to New Zealand was cheapest, and that's the Saban and thus Power Rangers way since day one.

But at the same time this type of mentality has put PR in its current state. I think some people in the fanbase have been complicit with how these companies have been treating this brand. If PR dies we as a fanbase should blame ourselves for not doing more tbh.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Bandaiman

But at the same time this type of mentality has put PR in its current state. I think some people in the fanbase have been complicit with how these companies have been treating this brand. If PR dies we as a fanbase should blame ourselves for not doing more tbh.

Like what? We don't have a say beyond our wallets and maybe social media and I promise you they don't distinguish between "lack of sales due to no interest" and "lack of sales due to protest". And yelling at producers on social media produces... questionable outcomes at best.

[Mesnick]

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And yelling at producers on social media produces... questionable outcomes at best.

It's actually quite funny that before social media, companies and creators would do anything to get fans' reactions and opinions. It even came to the implementation of their scenarios. But as soon as communication between creator and fan became as easy as possible, this desire disappeared very quickly.

[ZeroWolf]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

There's a saying about messengers and the shooting thereof. I think it goes, "Don't".

I didn't say it was a good method, I just said that's the method they went with and against all odds it paid off. I guess "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" ultimately applies here.

Again, not an endorsement, just the facts of the matter.



Exactly all of this. Haim was a notorious cheapskate to the point where he tried to screw Gene Simmons out of a deal, literally across the table from the guy. There's a reason why so much of Saban's output before and after PR was dub production; it's dirt cheap and usually nets a pretty good return. The man and his production company by extension would not spend a single cent if they could find any way to avoid it, and they worked hard in that regard.

And that, unfortunately, set the standard for which all of Power Rangers would be made under going forward, plain and simple. It worked when it did because it was in that perfect storm that was the Early 90s. It faltered as time went on because it was no longer as unique because the Anime Boom was in full boom and fulfilled much of its niche, including low costs. And as stated elsewhere in the thread, while moving production to Canada would've been cheaper - think about just how many shows at the turn of the millennium, BIG shows no less, were and even now are filmed in Canada - Moving to New Zealand was cheapest, and that's the Saban and thus Power Rangers way since day one.

Well said, especially the perfect storm of the 90s part, I'm not sure that if the earlier attempt at adapting super sentai would have worked as well because of those factors.

Also what was the deal with Gene Simmons? Was Haim after a KISS deal?

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by ZeroWolf

Well said, especially the perfect storm of the 90s part, I'm not sure that if the earlier attempt at adapting super sentai would have worked as well because of those factors.

I really don't think it would have. PR struck at exactly the right time by following up on what TMNT built right when TMNT was starting to wane, TMNT was only possible because of the complete and utter deregulation of children's television throughout the 80s and all that it brought. Just like how, in turn, MMPR set up its own demise by setting the stage for the Anime Boom of the late 90s/early 00s.

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Originally Posted by ZeroWolf

Also what was the deal with Gene Simmons? Was Haim after a KISS deal?

I forget the exact details, but given the parties and rough timeframe involved that was probably the plan.