[henshinzero]

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Originally Posted by Zolda

Yea, like everyone said, based on the name, this series likely has a sleep/dream/day-dream/imagination theme. Perhaps the internal logic works like a combination of KR Zi-O, the anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, the Gridman/SSSS.Gridman/SSSS.Dynazenon series, Donnie Darko (2001), Inception (2010)/Paprika (2006)/The Cell (2000), and Dreamscape (1984). The main protagonist could be an eager guy who had a big, exciting dream (hence the name Zeztz that was likely inspired by the the word zest) and possessed a latent/hidden ability, some kind of combination of reality-altering/bending/manipulation power (like Sougo Tokiwa did in KR Zi-O and Haruhi Suzumiya did) and dream infiltration/manipulation abilities similar to what the Gridman hosts and the characters in Inception/Paprika/The Cell did. At some point in the story there could happen a connection between dream and reality in the form of a reality-altering dream like shown in Donnie Darko and Rider Time: KR Zi-O vs KR Decade.

The ability to enter a human's subconscious realm was also shown in KR Wizard when KR Wizard or KR Beast entered a Gate's Underworld to prevent the Phantoms from wreaking havoc there, although it didn't cause a change in the real world, only creating new Phantoms. In KR Den-O, Imagins were also able to enter a human's subconscious realm (i.e. their contract holder's memory), traveled to the past and wreaked havoc there, and caused drastic changes in the future world. In KR Zeztz, the villains could be actual otherworldly beings that invaded the human world (and materialized) through people's nightmares, a combination of the premises of Dreamscape and Gridman/SSSS.Gridman/SSSS.Dynazenon. Dreams/imaginations could be seen as a portal to potential worlds or even alternate worlds, and the villains (and the Riders) could likely harness the energy from humans' dreams to manifest themselves and make themselves stronger. Many surreal, bizarre dream sequence scenes and confusing (or even convoluted!) internal logic similar to Inception could likely appear in the story.

The pointy corners of the logo have that jagged, slightly cartoonish look that are often used in old cartoons to depict a hole in the wall, which could be a visual clue that the villains likely came from a "dream realm" and broke free to the human world through people's nightmares. At least it looks more neutral/ambiguous and non-descript compared to KR Gavv's logo.

Mmmmmaaaaayyyyybbbbbeeeee...

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Originally Posted by Skyrogue19

Perhaps the overall theme is chasing your dreams to an extreme where you ignore everything else.

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Originally Posted by Zolda

Yes, that could be the case. The MC could be an overly optimistic dreamer with a severe tunnel vision who's chasing the end of the rainbow while ignoring everything in front of him, so he's basically the opposite of Eiji Hino/KR OOO, haha.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Or the main character is a perpetually sleepy guy. Then if Den-O is added to Zeztz's extra content, for once we can focus not on Momotaros, but on Kintaros.

All of these sound interesting entering a dream realm. They better give out vibes of NiGHTs as well! The Cell has a nice touch too along with Nightmare on Elm Street.

I worry about the rider's motif. Like what would work?

[DaikaijuSokogeki01]

I love how everyone seems to already be completely convinced this will be dream and sleep themed when it could just as easily be something like, I dunno, anthropomorphic letters. Did anyone think Saber would have a book motif based solely on its name?

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by DaikaijuSokogeki01

I love how everyone seems to already be completely convinced this will be dream and sleep themed when it could just as easily be something like, I dunno, anthropomorphic letters. Did anyone think Saber would have a book motif based solely on its name?

Well, at the very least, the name Saber spoiled the importance of swords in the show, which is already part of the motive. But I think it makes sense to assume that the dream is can be not the motive of the whole show, but something like the creed of the main character, as in the case of Gotthard. Plus, it's too early to dismiss the topic of buzzing insects too.

[FairyKing]

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Originally Posted by DaikaijuSokogeki01

I love how everyone seems to already be completely convinced this will be dream and sleep themed when it could just as easily be something like, I dunno, anthropomorphic letters. Did anyone think Saber would have a book motif based solely on its name?

Maybe it'll be about teaching kids the alphabet XD
And if that happens, a certain user will start demanding Sesame Street references... Jokes aside, a letter motif actually doesn't sound too far-fetched, given that Kamen Rider already did that once with W.

And if the helmet sketch is accurate, it looks way more bright and energetic than I'd expect for a dream-themed rider. It doesn't really look insect-like either. I like the idea of a dream rider but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Personally, I think the rumor that it's pronounced "zetsu" is the most likely to be true since that's an actual Japanese word (IIRC it can mean "end" "cut" or "best"), and the previous three riders have also all had names derived from Japanese words (Gavv = gabu, Gotchard = gacha/gashapon, Geats = kitsune)

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by FairyKing

Maybe it'll be about teaching kids the alphabet XD
And if that happens, a certain user will start demanding Sesame Street references... Jokes aside, a letter motif actually doesn't sound too far-fetched, given that Kamen Rider already did that once with W.

If we start from the idea with letters, then I have an association with Faiz, only with English letters instead of Greek ones.

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And if the helmet sketch is accurate, it looks way more bright and energetic than I'd expect for a dream-themed rider. It doesn't really look insect-like either. I like the idea of a dream rider but I'm not getting my hopes up.

The design can be a hint of bright dreams in which there are no restrictions.

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Personally, I think the rumor that it's pronounced "zetsu" is the most likely to be true since that's an actual Japanese word (IIRC it can mean "end" "cut" or "best"), and the previous three riders have also all had names derived from Japanese words (Gavv = gabu, Gotchard = gacha/gashapon, Geats = kitsune)

"The Best" is actually very fitting for the show, which is in Stronger's 50th anniversary and Kabuto's 20th anniversary. Plus, I thought the writers could combine the ideas of "Zetsu being the best" and "Z is the last letter of the alphabet" by making the main character a cool underdog. I mean, we already have that type as the Red Ranger in Gozyuger, so why not try him in Riders?

[Sh Ranger]

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Originally Posted by FairyKing

Personally, I think the rumor that it's pronounced "zetsu" is the most likely to be true

That part isn't even a rumor, the "zettsu" pronunciation is already 100% confirmed by the logo.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Number theory is back in the most unexpected forms!
But while Geats was a marathon swim in a pool of broken glass to me, I have no problem with Takahashi. He has his strengths and he knows how to hold the audience's attention. Plus, I think it's wrong to blame one person for the entire show.

At least we don't have to worry about Ohmori's nonsense anymore now that he's quit Toei, since the infamous Job Competition arc was confirmed to be all his fault. I think it's fair that Takahashi got his chance to write a full-length 48+ episode show, but why would he need to keep coming back often at this point, especially if it's yet another case where he's the only one writing and inevitably fumbles towards the end? Not saying that he can't come back ever, but I think Takahashi every 3 years isn't a pattern that should continue.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

The design can be a hint of bright dreams in which there are no restrictions.

The power of lucid dreams where you can make anything happen only limited by imagination, kind of like Genm Level 1000000000. Maybe the MOTWs will function similar to Another Riders or the Knightmares from Dino Fury, where the only way to defeat them for good is to confront the source of the host's trauma.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

"The Best" is actually very fitting for the show, which is in Stronger's 50th anniversary and Kabuto's 20th anniversary. Plus, I thought the writers could combine the ideas of "Zetsu being the best" and "Z is the last letter of the alphabet" by making the main character a cool underdog. I mean, we already have that type as the Red Ranger in Gozyuger, so why not try him in Riders?

To have a cool underdog like Hoeru for Gozyuger, we'd also need competition. Could this be a season with an abundance of Riders?

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Not saying that he can't come back ever, but I think Takahashi every 3 years isn't a pattern that should continue.

Agreed. In fact, in tokusatsu quite often many authors left a bad name behind them simply because they wrote too much and too often. So yeah, let Takahashi wait at least two more years. Or, for the sake of variety, try himself in a full-fledged Sentai.
A bit off-topic now, but I recently got acquainted with the concept that restrictions can actually have a positive effect on creativity, making the creator, well... more creative. And considering that Sentai is stricter in this regard than riders (at least because of the mandatory team and mech), I think as a development, rider writers should work there at least as additional writers.

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To have a cool underdog like Hoeru for Gozyuger, we'd also need competition. Could this be a season with an abundance of Riders?

Well, if we take the concept that riders are based on English letters, then there are still 22 possible characters. Plus guest cameos from W, X and G.

[Sunred]

If they go with the dream theme like a number of us are assuming, including myself, I can see it being a bit Gridman-ish show but swap cyberspace with dreams.

[weedle013ZiO]

That also explains what similarity it can have with Wizard lol

[DreadBringer]

Takahashi should not come back. Not out of malice but because it'd only worsen one's reputation. Don't really care/hope him returning too, not out of bashing to his shows but by above; I mean this is similar to Kobayashi also never returning to KR so far.