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Both Shoma and Hanto have surprising encounters.
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Join Date: May 2022
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While this is a recap episode, we did learn some new things:
- The doors connecting the Granute World and the Human World was stumbled by Zomb. - While not outright stated, it's heavily implied that the movie villain is the one who created this doors. - Bouche was poisoned by Lango. |
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#3 |
Super Lawyer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 377
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In the scene @ 00:52, Hajime the kid of the week is overhearing a talk between 2 of his friends about Kamen Riders who fight human-kidnapping monsters. They think it's just a baseless online rumor. He didn't expect that the weird guy he encountered in episode 1 would turn out to be a Kamen Rider. And of course, when he, his friends, and their coach are about to cross the street @ 01:36, as usual in this atrocious story, in a very very very convenient coincidence, he encounters Shouma again who he calls the suspicious Shouma. This scene is definitely a callback to the 100000000000000000000000% brain dead, stupid, idiotic truck crash scene in episode 1 @ 02:33.
Gavv 01 @ 02:45 ![]() https://i.imgur.com/FNgbgyn.gif In the scene @ 03:34, Hajime the kid of the week is invited by Sachika and Shouma to her shop. He apologizes to Shouma for how his mom called him a monster. Shouma is showing Hajime how all of his RG's are created from many types of snack and how they grant various forms to him. I've just realized that it's episode 44(!) already, but Shouma has never produced an RG based on peanut snacks. He's been 44 weeks in Tokyo, and the thought of sampling peanut snacks has never even occurred to him? ![]() ![]() In the scene @ 08:24, when Shouma and Hajime are strolling near Toei's warehouses (read: studios, haha ![]() ![]() In the scene @ 09:26, a Granute who is newly-trafficked by Stomach corporation is dumped in the human world. He's watching a corporate training video (haha ![]() The revolutionary, game-changing ingredient that the narrator referenced to @ 10:13 obviously means the spices extracted from the kidnapped humans, so Zomb could've already been able to procure the spices if and only if he already had the ability to open the interworld portal into the human world and kidnapped humans from there. No interworld portal = No access to the human world = No human kidnapping = No spices = No Dark Snacks = No business expansion at all for Stomach corporation. Soooooooooo, like I already asked in my post in episode 25 thread here: - Who created the interworld portal in the first place? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() - How the heck were the Stomach family members able to gain the crucial ability to open an interworld portal in the first place? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() - And, more importantly, how the heck no one in the Granute world (not even Bocca!) knew that the Stomach family members are able to access the human world? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() - How the heck is the Granute authority unable to connect the dots about the many missing people (the Dark Snack junkies) during these 2 decades? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() - The answer to those questions is very likely: DON'T KNOW!!! DON'T WANNA KNOW!!! DON'T CARE!!! Let me repost the paragraph about the interworld portal from my post in episode 25 thread here: "Speaking of Stomach's interworld portal, who the heck created it? Who gave the Stomach family members the crucial ability to open an interworld portal in the first place? None of the ordinary Granutes are able to do that, so that crucial ability must be created by someone before Dente created his Dark Snack recipe and the whole Dark Snack production line (Hito Press process, etc). The Stomach family members can't just conveniently have the crucial ability to open an interworld portal and trafficked humans and Granutes. The fact that even one member from the Granute police department has never appeared in this story, except when Lango the stupidest CEO villain said in episode 5 @ 04:53 that he was concerned that the Granute government might've cracked down on Stomach's illegal drug operation, is more than enough proof that no one in the Granute world, not even the Granute police department, know that the Stomach family members have the crucial ability to open an interworld portal. I hope this convenient, crucial ability to open an interworld portal will be addressed in the next 10 episodes. This story already has a gazillion of logical anomalies and plot holes, and if it's left unaddressed until this story ends then it will be the ultimate proof that the writers and producers of this story didn't really care about logical consistency." In the scene @ 10:50, the newly-trafficked Granute switches to another training video new part-timers narrated by Nyelv who is the head of Stomach corporation's R & D department. He's narrating a video about Granute hunters (the Riders) who threaten the part-timers' operations, and is basically describing most of the Riders' forms. What I find funny is the fact that the photos for the untransformed, civilian form of the Riders are low resolution, haha. ![]() ![]() ![]() Gavv 44 @ 12:37 ![]() That flashback scene shows that Komel was indeed killed by Glotta in the Granute world, and that's a very very very severe, plot-breaking logical anomaly. So, I'd like to repost my point about it in my post in episode 39 thread here: "Like I elaborated in my post in episode 25 thread here, the kabutomushi Granute says that he heard a rumor from his friend that an idiotic part-timer got scared and ran away in the middle of a job. This implied that that part-timer was Komel. Buuuuuuuuuuutttttttttt, if Komel ran away in the middle of a job in the human world, then doesn't it mean that he could only run away in the human world? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh, and like I elaborated in my post in episode 38 thread here, if the scene in episode 38 @ 22:14 shows that Kenji/Rago/wolf Granute was immediately vaporized when he was executed by Glotta, then why the heck wasn't Komel vaporized as well when he was executed by her right in front of Lage 9's house in episode 19 @ 17:13? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gavv 38 @ 22:46 ![]() Gavv 19 @ 17:22 ![]() Gavv 39 @ 18:37 ![]() In the scene @ 12:48, Hanto is visiting Lage 9 who is taking a lazy nap at Kenzou's crummy office/lab. He's asking Lage 9 for more details about Bocca, but Lage 9 says that he doesn't know much about Bocca either. Lage 9 says that Bocca was originally just a guy with bad reputation/standing among the Granute citizens. He says that Bocca is always trying to please the Granute aristocrats, and there have also been rumors swirling about Bocca assassinating his political rivals. He thinks that due to the next presidential election is coming soon, Bocca is planning to use the Dark Snacks to manipulate the aristocrats. So yeah, like I've said, Bocca's endgame is pretty much manipulating the entire Granute society, starting with the aristocrats/wealthy. I'd like to repost my point about it in the 3rd paragraph of my post in episode 43 thread last week here: "I think perhaps Bocca's endgame (about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) is part of his ultimate political scheme of manipulating virtually all of Granute's population by using Dark Snacks. Buuuuuttttt, at the beginning of episode 41, it was shown that he already had the dead body of his assassinated political rival whom he said to possess hypnosis power. If Nyelv was able to combine the poor Granute politician's body with Kenzou's body, then he should've been able to combine it with another Granute's body, and then used it to hypnotize the entire Granute population. Which means: Bocca already had all the ingredients to create his ultimate tool of mass hypnosis that he'd ultimately use as his political weapon, without even involving Stomach corporation (except Nyelv) Dark Snacks, kidnapping humans, and all that crap. Bocca's convoluted endgame (about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) is just the same exact plan with 10 extra steps, which of course, will end in Bocca's (and Liselle's) death, haha. ![]() ![]() ![]() What he should do is: - Keep the dead body of his assassinated political rival who he said to possess hypnosis power. - Combine it with another Granute's body. - Use it to manipulate the entire Granute population. - Win the election and be the dictator president for the next 100 years. Instead, what he's actually been doing is: - Keep the dead body of his assassinated political rival who he said to possess hypnosis power. - Combine it with a human's body. - Use it to manipulate the entire human population. - Use the entire human population as ingredients of Dark Snacks. - Feed the Dark Snacks to the entire Granute population and manipulate them. - Win the election and be the dictator president for the next 100 years. - Of course, his convoluted plan will be screwed up at the last minutes by the protagonists, and it will end in Bocca's (and Liselle's) death. Instead of winning the election by using a simple, straightforward plan, he's decided to use an uber-convoluted plan that will result in his own death. If this is what'll actually happen in the story, then I can only say: What a dumb politician Bocca is! ![]() ![]() ![]() In the scene @ 14:58, Nyelv is entering the so-called Door Room and says in a very strange, very obvious infodump monologue that "the old man" (who could be Zomb or even Bouche during his younger years) merely discovered it and built the Stomach mansion around it. He asks himself who made the so-called Door Room (which several paragraphs earlier I called interworld portal) and wonders what kind of technology is used. He says that while most of the doors lead to the human world, there could be some that lead to other different worlds, and ends his scene by closing the door into another world that looks like a post-apocalyptic world after a destructive event, which looks like Caries' (the summer film's villain) world of origin. The explanation for how Zomb or Bouche discovered the so-called Door Room could be that they acquired it after they defeat Caries in a battle and banish/prison him into the destroyed world. The so-called Door Room is just a multiverse portal that can connect the Granute world with other worlds, probably even KR Zeztz's world. Who knows. But Caries is still alive, so I'm not sure about my hypothesis, haha. ![]() In the scene @ 15:34, near Toei's warehouses (read: studios, haha ![]() In the scene @ 17:18, it's Shita's turn to narrate the recap when she recounts the event of her defeat/death at the hands of Shouma/KR Gavv Caking form at the end of episode 14. Exactly 37 seconds later, it's Glotta's turn. So yeah, they died in vain, haha. ![]() In the scene @ 18:41, it's Lango Mango's turn to recount how Bouche (who he calls the crazy old man) was a talentless businessman who ruined the company, and resents Bocca for taking Michiru (Shouma's mom) as his wife. Aaaaannnnnddddd, my hypothesis many moons ago in my 3rd post in episode 12 thread here about Bouche being made to die unnaturally by the Stomach siblings turns out to be correct. This very strange, very obvious infodump monologue by Lango Mango implies that he was the one who killed Bouche by poisoning his wine. Well, if Lango Mango resents Bouche that much and is willing and able to kill him, then why did he poison Bouche only recently (several moments before the beginning of episode 1)? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In the scene @ 20:22, Nyelv who was able to escape from Hanto/KR Valen's attacks several minutes earlier is still strolling near Toei's warehouses (read: studios, haha ![]() ![]() Jeebh and Liselle are totally absent in this episode. No surprise there, haha. ![]() ![]() Next week (summer film): Glotta is shown to be still alive, and is casually eating out at an amusement park. Shita is also still alive and is shown to be strolling at the same location with Jeebh, and says that their mission is to develop a new product in order to win the in-house competition at Stomach corporation. Lage 9 is shown working as a porter there. Shouma is shown working as Sachika's part-timer, trying to attract a dog's attention. There's also a new part-timer guy named Taorin who I hypothesized in my post in episode 43 thread last week here as Caries' lackey (forgot his name) or the adult version of Hajime the kid of the week or the untransformed KR Zeztz. He actually also has a Gavv, so he could be just a Stomach corporation's part-timer. Oh, and Caries' lackey's name is actually Quelap, or Crap? Haha. ![]() The event of the summer film happens between episode 44 and 45, and the origin of the so-called Door Room is likely elaborated there. This summer film is basically just an alternate/what-if world of the story where Shita and Glotta are still alive. The so-called Door Room is just a very very very convenient narrative tool to easily create a multiverse/alternate/what-if story, haha. ![]() Next week (episode 45): Liselle appears again after completely absent in episode 44. She's likely gonna ultimately be a mere emotional vulnerability for Bocca, and her relevance to the story would be when her death triggers Bocca's wrath which will hasten his full-scale invasion into the human world. Nyelv manages to find Shouma's location at Sachika's shop by following an RG that he encountered very very very convenient coincidence earlier @ 20:22. He's trying to agitate Shouma even more by revealing Bocca's endgame of mass-producing the Dark Snacks and invading the human world. So yeah, like I hypothesized in my post in episode 43 thread last week here, he's trying to psychologically manipulate Shouma by drilling in his mind the worst-case scenario that could happen if Shouma is not taking an immediate action. Given the fact that Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari is totally absent in episode 44 could mean that Nyelv's plan could have something to do with him. Although I'm not sure about that because the preview scene @ 23:05 shows Shouma seemingly entering the so-called Door Room to return to the Granute world with Nyelv. Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee... |
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Basically, it's a recap episode, but a pretty interesting one. It was great to see Hajime again, since his interactions with Shouma didn't end well. And in general, bringing back characters from the first half of the show closer to the end helps both create a sense of continuity and show character development. And for Shouma, this is especially important, considering that he's an outsider in the human world.
The worker's manual and the otherworldly world of Granute are also pretty good. Also, to keep action fans from getting bored, there's an inventive fight between Valen and Nyelv in a narrow passage. By the way, judging by this fight, Nyelv is a weakling by the standards of the Stomatch family, and not Granute as a whole. In addition, we get a little bit of lore clarification, like the world of doors and Bushe's death. He was poisoned by Lango and, apparently, single-handedly, unlike the murder of Michiru, which Stomatch went to with the whole family. There is also a trailer for the movie, the actions of which, judging by the hints, take place in a parallel dimension. It didn't cause a wow effect, but it was interesting. Overall, an optional, but not bad summary of the episode. The preview for the next one promises that Nyelv will try to unite with Shouma. It makes sense from his point of view. Bokka is powerful, but his power is stable, while Gavv is constantly evolving. This means that sooner or later Shouma will surpass the president (and will always be better than Jeebh, whose rate of strengthening is slower). Therefore, it makes sense to stand on his side in order to be among the winners in the future. Although it could also all be a ploy to defeat Gavv. Nyelv still remains a mystery, because unlike other Stomatch, he has never voiced his attitude towards his father's human family. Perhaps his resentment is no less strong than the others, just not as obvious. P.S. I'm a little disappointed that Dente was shown in the recap, but mentioned only as Zomb's brother. . As a character, he deserves more. Last edited by Mesnick; 07-20-2025 at 05:54 AM.. |
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Because the employees whose job it is to turn people into drugs/food don't need to be instilled with the idea that people and Granute are similar. The very idea that a person and Granute could have a child together already contains the seed for future betrayal. This video also lies about Gavv being ruthless. It's actually very clever because the temporary workers are given what they need to know, not the truth.
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Standing By
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
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Calling it now, Episode 46 will be called Sonna Sekai Kanaeru Tame.
Welcome back. And we got to see Hajime once more, so that's cool. Best kind of worst episode we could ask for. Quote:
After all that talk of the strong dominating the weak, Lango had to use poison like a loser. Bouche should've been more cautious though, considering how besides Dente, his whole family disliked him. Quote:
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The preview for the next one promises that Nyelv will try to unite with Shouma. It makes sense from his point of view. Bokka is powerful, but his power is stable, while Gavv is constantly evolving. This means that sooner or later Shouma will surpass the president (and will always be better than Jeebh, whose rate of strengthening is slower). Therefore, it makes sense to stand on his side in order to be among the winners in the future.
Meanwhile, Lango's spouting a menacing monologue to nobody on a rooftop. What a goof.
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The Immortal King Tasty
Join Date: Jan 2012
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![]() Probably the strangest episode of Gavv there will ever be? There's an obvious logic behind it, mind you. It's the episode airing right before the movie comes out, so if you need a quick refresher on Gavv for whatever reason, they made a clip show that'll give you a solid enough gist of the series in a relatively short amount of time, while also trying to make it interesting enough for the established fans by spelling out some things clearly for the first time, tying a large chunk of the premise back to the premiere in a really cute way, and hinting at things to come on screens both big and small. All in all, I'd say it's actually quite the success as far as this whole genre of episode goes? The section with Shouma and Hajime catching up really is a solid way to lend some weight to basic flashbacks about Gavv's form changes, simply because it's just kinda nice to see that kid get some proper closure after all this time. And, perhaps connected to the episode's script being credited to Toei's famous universal pen name for its producers, there are a few touches that made me happy as someone who reads the production blog every week. Hajime gets to make that unused tagline about picking up a Kamen Rider into an actual used line, and Shouma gets to read some of his diary out loud, making those cute little anecdotes into something that tiny bit more than a mere freeze-frame bonus or extra on a website. Lots of little joys like that abound in this episode, and they start to add up after a while. There's a respectable effort to *build* something further, to the capacity an episode like this can, rather than merely mentioning again things that have already been built. That also happens on those couple of occasions where the exposition goes beyond what's previously been explicitly said, which I'm a little more mixed on? I always thought it was significant we were only ever *told* Shouma's father was dead, for example, but apparently it wasn't *so* significant that a recap episode can't be the place we get something more concrete on what went down? Usually when I have a complaint about how something fits into the long-term structure of Gavv, though, it ends up making sense to me *in* the long-term, so I don't expect this to be any different. It seems strange to me now, but probably won't later. What the "strangeness" I referred to earlier actually comes from is how, despite all the logic behind the things in this episode, it still has this very unusual, downright dream-like flow? From the decision to open it as though it's a rerun of the premiere, to how Shouma and Hajime leave the episode about halfway through. There's this almost anthology style to it, where we can basically cut away to anybody anywhere at complete random -- even if they're dead -- with transitions smooth enough to make the individual sections seem much more connected than they really are. It's weirdly avant-garde for a clip show, and I was honestly really into it? Gavv definitely doesn't need more than one episode like this, and it maybe didn't even need the one, but as a one-off thing, I'm grateful for the unique flavor it brings to the series.
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Recap episode with likely movie tie-in.
Hajime finally reunites with Shoma. The early part of the episode depicts Shoma's escape from Granute World, along with how Hajime managed to find him. Shoma doesn't distance himself from people after his development in ep. 5, leading Hajime to perceive him as less shady now. Hajime is also introduced to Sachika, the second person who found Shoma. It’s unfortunate that this wasn’t addressed in the earlier episode where Hajime was the first to find Shoma, with Sachika being the second. Regarding Hanto’s visit to Suga’s lab, Rakia's the one colder to him, dismissing Hanto’s greeting, though it's logical thinking where it's obvious he's not well. Rakia provides some insight regarding Bocca and his current intentions, but soon falls asleep again. This seems to be a tactic to entice Hanto into bringing him tasty rocks on his next visit, even though Hanto wouldn’t know which rocks are tasty. There’s also no negotiating about human food— which Shoma enjoys so much—is tastier. In the next episode preview, Nyelv mentions convincing Shoma to use his powers to halt the production of Dark Treats and stop the invasion of the human world. It’s unclear what might cause this shift, especially since Nyelv remains a strong advocate for Stomach Inc. throughout this episode. He relays information to the part-timers about the Granute Hunters and engages in combat against Valen, whom he clearly views as an enemy, even threatening a Gochizo. More information about Bouche is revealed: he is the 2nd president of Stomach Inc., advocating for stable and safe business practices. His death is shown onscreen, likely due to Lango poisoning him. People may celebrate Lango’s rebellion against his neglectful father and view Lango's words as truth, about Bouche’s incompetence and ruining the Stomach family. However, it seems spiteful, as Lango clearly harbors hatred for Bouche due to his role in creating Shoma, who he considers a 'mistake' and his biggest obstacle. Zomb also already started the evil practice of the Stomach family if Bouche is blamed for it. The closing segment of the episode appears to diverge from the main storyline, featuring Glotta checking human foods on her phone and Jeebh and Shita competing in an internal competition. Additionally, Sachika refers to Shoma as Taorin, and a new villain who's also a Kamen Rider, Master Caries, is introduced. Quote:
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That also happens on those couple of occasions where the exposition goes beyond what's previously been explicitly said, which I'm a little more mixed on? I always thought it was significant we were only ever *told* Shouma's father was dead, for example, but apparently it wasn't *so* significant that a recap episode can't be the place we get something more concrete on what went down? Usually when I have a complaint about how something fits into the long-term structure of Gavv, though, it ends up making sense to me *in* the long-term, so I don't expect this to be any different. It seems strange to me now, but probably won't later.
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I wonder if the remaining episode titles will all be from lyrics of Got Boost. Or maybe it's just up to next episode.
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