[acdcguy]

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Boy howdy, I remeber when just doubleposting in a forum was considered a Cardinal Sin! ...oh, he finally got banned.

...what were we talking about again? OH RIGHT, the potential end of Super Sentai. It's certainly a bummer and I feel for the fans. I'd be surprised if it had any major impact in the West (at least from my perspective), if only because Hasbro seems content on letting the whole franchise wither away until all that's left is the occasional token licensed MMPR merch or comic book crossover tie-in.

...no I'm NOT bitter about how poorly/premturely the Lightning Collection Power Weapons and ZAP lines were treated and ended, shut up. (I'm never going to get a new proper combined Power Blaster, am I)

Long overdue ban imo. That person got on my nerves and never contributed anything of value. Only to complain or add a 1-2 word response barely related to a thread or a response.

The end of Super Sentai is incredibly sad. But nothing lasts forever and 50 years of consistent programing is a hell of an achievement. It's crazy to think that the series that eventually gave us Power Rangers is far older than The Simpsons and many other long running American TV shows. Thanks to the show's longevity and popularity in of itself and through it's American adaptation it got a major Hollywood motion picture released before the likes of any Marvel superhero pre or post MCU. Sentai certainly peaked around Gokaiger with a massive celebration of 35 years on television. But there is only so many theme ideas and stories before you start to retread on themes and ideas. Hell even before Gokaiger Sentai was retreading on themes such as animals, dinosaurs (and other prehistoric creatures), ninjas, and cars. Popularity wanes and its time in the sun has now passed.

Hasbro certainly has not helped things. They continuously pivot to MMPR even though Power Rangers has had many popular post-MMPR seasons. The problem with Hasbro is they make crappy toys then consider the brand a failure for not selling. Though they produced well enough lines of various seasons to suggest that some figures were selling well enough to continue the line for several years. So I don't really buy the whole "poor sales" argument at face value. Most likely Hasbro is acting like a petty teenager. The previous leadership enthusiastically acquired Power Rangers with the desire to exploit the brand to its full potential. But the current leadership obviously hates the acquisition and has nerfed the line and licensed it out to Playmates because they rather focus on their Transformers line. Which is the problem whenever you have a major competitor buy out its competition. The buy out was a massive mistake on the behalf of Saban, who has arguably treated his brand worse than Disney ever had. Neglecting a capable adult is far better than handing it over to an abuser. Though Disney also pivoted to MMPR in the end of their first run with the franchise so it's not much better.

I wasn't the biggest fan of Bandai America during the 2010s, especially with the zordbuilder line and how worse the quality got towards the end. But I'd rather have Bandai back if Bandai Japan could ban Bandai America from using zordbuilder for DX intended lines. Which would be difficult to do since they're technically two different companies, but perhaps B-Japan could refuse to license the DX toys in any way if B-A made any changes outside of American toy manufacturing laws. Plus aside from some gaudy zordbuilder ports the Legacy line megazords were sold well and were largely well received. I'm still hoping for a release of the Legacy Shogun Megazord even if I have to wait until I'm 50 for that to happen.

The Toei-Hasbro divorce seems to have negatively affected both Sentai and Power Rangers. If the rumors are true that Toei intends to do a re-brand and market it as a Power Rangers competitor in North America well then good luck to them. Not sure how they will go about addressing past PR adapted Sentai and unadapted Sentai in the continuity going forward. I could see them pushing Jetman aesthetics and other older teams (and newer unadapted teams). But it becomes a problem with shows like Fiveman and Dairanger that have a complicated relationship with Power Rangers.

[Sunred]

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Originally Posted by acdcguy

It's crazy to think that the series that eventually gave us Power Rangers is far older than The Simpsons and many other long running American TV shows.

Aside from General Hospital (which, according to what I googled, has been airing in America since the 1960s non-stop ), for sure.
Not a lot of consecutively long-running sci-fi series come to mind like Super Sentai, and I was hoping to see Super Sentai No. 100 by the time I become super old, but yeah, retreading concepts and motifs can only be done so many times, and I think it's time to let it catch a breather and maybe come back strong in the future.
Heck, Metal Heroes had its hiatus (except for the guest appearances and movies) since Kuuga aired if I recall, and fast-forward to now, we have confirmation of Gavan returning in some form again since the Type G era, for lack of better words. Sad to see it go, but inevitable given its circumstances. And even if Toei won't be making them at the moment, there will be tons of parodies and fanfics of all sorts to keep us inspired and entertained in the meantime.

[acdcguy]

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Originally Posted by Sunred

Aside from General Hospital (which, according to what I googled, has been airing in America since the 1960s non-stop ), for sure.
Not a lot of consecutively long-running sci-fi series come to mind like Super Sentai, and I was hoping to see Super Sentai No. 100 by the time I become super old, but yeah, retreading concepts and motifs can only be done so many times, and I think it's time to let it catch a breather and maybe come back strong in the future.
Heck, Metal Heroes had its hiatus (except for the guest appearances and movies) since Kuuga aired if I recall, and fast-forward to now, we have confirmation of Gavan returning in some form again since the Type G era, for lack of better words. Sad to see it go, but inevitable given its circumstances. And even if Toei won't be making them at the moment, there will be tons of parodies and fanfics of all sorts to keep us inspired and entertained in the meantime.

Sometimes a hiatus is good for a property. One property that comes to mind American wise is Scooby-Doo. There has been some Scooby-Doo related project in production since 1969, even older than both Super Sentai and Kamen Rider. However, it has never been directly linked from one production to another. Instead there is usually a period of 2-6 years between production releases. Sometimes giving a franchise a bit of a break helps creatives return with more fresh ideas in the future. I honestly think that Super Sentai would benefit from revisiting previous seasons since Super Sentai is so old and massive there are plenty of seasons that have more to offer but weren't fully explored due to the nature of a soft reboot every year.

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Sunred

I was hoping to see Super Sentai No. 100 by the time I become super old

I'm sure that in 2075th, Toei (or any other rights holder) will somehow celebrate Super Sentai's centennial. Perhaps even with a simple name reversion and turning all "Universe Heroes" (or whatever name the upcoming franchise might have) into part of Super Sentai. And Infinity Gavan will be remembered as a year-long crossover.

[acdcguy]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

I'm sure that in 2075th, Toei (or any other rights holder) will somehow celebrate Super Sentai's centennial. Perhaps even with a simple name reversion and turning all "Universe Heroes" (or whatever name the upcoming franchise might have) into part of Super Sentai. And Infinity Gavan will be remembered as a year-long crossover.

It's the year 2075, Japan has recovered from a near population collapse after a hard pivot to nationalism and pro-natalism. All YouTube tourism has been banned. Japan was able to expand their empire to Korea after their population collapse and captured North Korean nukes. Which left them to form a reluctant ally-ship with China to counter the growing Saudi Arabian superpower after their acquisition of Warner Bros in 2026, and all of Hollywood by 2028 and later the annexation of the former American states, once the former USA collapsed after the Snoop Dogg-Martha Stewart Administration collapsed in 2032.

Daizyujin, a once beloved megazord of Sentai and Power Rangers as become the new global symbol of oppression and tyranny akin to X-Men sentinels. Many large Daizyujins patrol the new Japanese domain and sit at the border between the new Imperial Japan and the new Saudi Islamic Caliphate that splits what was once Hawaii.

Before the start of World War IV, Sony-Toei announces their centennial celebration of Super Sentai with a new series titled Super Century Sentai Gorenger, used in wartime propaganda to justify world domination via megazord and henshin technology. Post-war plans include a centennial adaptation of Sun Vulcan celebrate a Japanese victory in 2081.

[BlazeKing]

I don't believe Super Sentai itself is going to end, but it won't be a yearly produced thing anymore. One example is a Super Sentai series ending and then directly turning into a Metal Heroes saga and then another Super Sentai team appears in the same world of the Metal Heroes to transition back into Super Sentai.

[Sunred]

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Originally Posted by acdcguy

Sometimes a hiatus is good for a property. One property that comes to mind American wise is Scooby-Doo. There has been some Scooby-Doo related project in production since 1969, even older than both Super Sentai and Kamen Rider. However, it has never been directly linked from one production to another. Instead there is usually a period of 2-6 years between production releases. Sometimes giving a franchise a bit of a break helps creatives return with more fresh ideas in the future. I honestly think that Super Sentai would benefit from revisiting previous seasons since Super Sentai is so old and massive there are plenty of seasons that have more to offer but weren't fully explored due to the nature of a soft reboot every year.

Yep. Same goes for TMNT as well, I suppose?

[DaikaijuSokogeki01]

I would personally love to see an approach like what Precure has done in recent years, with a late night 12-episode follow-up series to one of their more popular seasons. Or perhaps another big crossover miniseries like Super Sentai Strongest Battle that exists just for fanservice.