[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

Well, the two-part format sounds a whole lot more interesting than episodic MOTW style, but I still prefer the formula that Ghost has been following. What's another series that has a good, continuous storyline? I've heard Gaim is like that, but what else?

Also, which series has the best two-part formula? I like the paranormal investigations aspect of Ghost, so W sounds fun with its detective work. (same with Drive)

The two part format has it's ups and downs. I feel that Double and OOO use the two-parter format best, myself.

If you want a good, continuous story, Gaim is basically the best place for it. I think Blade does it well, too, but a lot of people find the first 10-15 episodes (As well as the poor video quality due to TV rips rather than DVD) to be a bit of a slog.

[GoseiWonder]

I can attest to the first 15 eps of Blade being a slog. Mostly because I had no friggin clue what the hell was happening half the time.

Didn't help that, at a glance, Kenzaki, Tachibana and Hajime all kinda look the same out of suit with very similar outfits and hair. At least with Hajime you know it's him because he's usually hanging out with a little girl.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by vin13ish

I got question about Kamen Rider Drive Saga with Mach and Heart.

Since both Mach and Heart take place 2 years after the conclusion of Kamen Rider Drive's Finale, How can Heart become Kamen Rider despite being dead?

First option: The entire thing where he is a Rider takes place in the past and the synopsis actually only refers to Mach. Dick move, but nothing I would put past Toei.

Second option: Gou is working on reviving Chase but the technology is stolen by a Roidmude fanatic who revives a bunch of Roidmudes which go nuts, Heart is also revived but takes care of the problem by becoming a Rider to stop his friends.

Third Option: It somehow ties into the Ghost & Drive Summer crossover movie where Heart, Brain and Medic are alive.

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

Well, the two-part format sounds a whole lot more interesting than episodic MOTW style, but I still prefer the formula that Ghost has been following. What's another series that has a good, continuous storyline? I've heard Gaim is like that, but what else?

Lots of early Heisei is like that. Like I haven't watched all of it, but if you like what Ghost is doing you'll like a lot of early Heisei stuff. They all feature a building storyline with weekly monsters thrown in the mix.

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

Also, which series has the best two-part formula? I like the paranormal investigations aspect of Ghost, so W sounds fun with its detective work. (same with Drive)

W and OOO do it the best way IMO. W with the detective theme can keep your interest up so you actually want to know how they resolve the case next week, OOO's characters are good enough that you want to know what happens to them next.

Wizard is probably the worst example of the two-part formula since the characters are trash and the enemies are a joke. You don't care what happens to the characters and you don’t really want to know what happens next since the story goes nowhere and the enemies always die and never do anything major. Of course there are a few exceptions, but overall if a Phantom shows up you know it’s gonna fail. Not like W or OOO where you know they will find a way to win, but you don’t know how they do it. Wizard? The Phantoms are useless, Rider kick to the face, the end.

Drive isn’t as interesting as W & OOO at first, but once the show gets to the part where Shinnosuke deals with the case of his father it gets really good. That was too late for me but I still enjoyed it a little bit.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

I can attest to the first 15 eps of Blade being a slog. Mostly because I had no friggin clue what the hell was happening half the time.

Didn't help that, at a glance, Kenzaki, Tachibana and Hajime all kinda look the same out of suit with very similar outfits and hair. At least with Hajime you know it's him because he's usually hanging out with a little girl.

How do they all look similar? Dude, I know the vid quality sucks, but they look totally different!

[EpsilonX]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

How do they all look similar? Dude, I know the vid quality sucks, but they look totally different!

I can't tell any of the science patrol apart in the original Ultraman

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Lots of early Heisei is like that. Like I haven't watched all of it, but if you like what Ghost is doing you'll like a lot of early Heisei stuff. They all feature a building storyline with weekly monsters thrown in the mix.

Sounds good to me.

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W and OOO do it the best way IMO. W with the detective theme can keep your interest up so you actually want to know how they resolve the case next week, OOO's characters are good enough that you want to know what happens to them next.

Episodic (bi-episodic?) can be good as long as each episode is done well. Some of the old showa stuff is fun, but there comes a point where you're just watching the same thing over and over again. Sounds like some of the later ones at least keep things interesting.

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Wizard is probably the worst example of the two-part formula since the characters are trash and the enemies are a joke. You don't care what happens to the characters and you don’t really want to know what happens next since the story goes nowhere and the enemies always die and never do anything major. Of course there are a few exceptions, but overall if a Phantom shows up you know it’s gonna fail. Not like W or OOO where you know they will find a way to win, but you don’t know how they do it. Wizard? The Phantoms are useless, Rider kick to the face, the end.

I still think it's a shame that Wizard ended up the way it did - the suit is in my top 5 easily.

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Drive isn’t as interesting as W & OOO at first, but once the show gets to the part where Shinnosuke deals with the case of his father it gets really good. That was too late for me but I still enjoyed it a little bit.

How does it compare to Ghost so far?

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

Episodic (bi-episodic?) can be good as long as each episode is done well. Some of the old showa stuff is fun, but there comes a point where you're just watching the same thing over and over again. Sounds like some of the later ones at least keep things interesting.

Agreed. I had fun watching Black but it doesn't really do a whole lot of story. I mean there's Shadow Moon but... still nothing like Heisei does things.

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still think it's a shame that Wizard ended up the way it did - the suit is in my top 5 easily.

The suits and the action are the best thing about Wizard - I enjoyed both. But it's hard watching Wizard when the 5 minutes of action every episode is the only thing you can look forward to.

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how does it compare to Ghost so far?

Drive is much better than Ghost IMO. Both suffer from terrible slapstick comedy and annoying side characters, but I like Drive better. Shinnosuke and his gang are much more interesting than Takeru and co., who are all very bland. Like, Alain got some cool development lately, but I never really felt invested with anything Takeru or Makoto were doing.

Meanwhile in Drive, Shinnosuke got the thing with his dad and the relationship with Mr. Belt, Gou got the thing with Dr. Banno I won't spoil and Chase has some really good stuff going on too.

And the SCU... well at least they have some strong episodes. Ghost has Onari.

I'm not crazy about either show, but I think Drive is better. And OOO and W are much better than Drive and Ghost.

[vin13ish]

Do you find it odd that Heart got his own movie despite being the villain and never transformed into a Kamen Rider

He would be the first villain who was originally NOT a Kamen Rider to get his own movie

It like saying they are making movie about Sonozaki family and have one of them become Kamen Rider! How that work? Who want to see a movie about Sonozaki Family?!

Do you think Toei took a huge risk of making a movie about a Non-Kamen Rider like Heart? A Non-Kamen Rider starring his own movie?!

[henshinzero]

If they remade Amazon modern and with an awesome story, why don't they do the same with Kiva?

I can just imagine Kiva into something...

- Devil May Cry
- Vampire Diaries
&
- Grimm

More riders and more arms monsters! More blood... real vampires!

[GoseiWonder]

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

If they remade Amazon modern and with an awesome story, why don't they do the same with Kiva?

I can just imagine Kiva into something...

- Devil May Cry
- Vampire Diaries
&
- Grimm

More riders and more arms monsters! More blood... real vampires!

But Kiva's a Heisei Rider, not a Showa Rider.

[Matrixbeast]

Kiva is still modern...