[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

So when are you going to watch Agito?

After I get a Go-Gadoru-Ba figure.

[henshinzero]

Gokaiger was about finding the universe's greatest treasure and fighting the Zangyack. With each ranger team they meet, they earn an ultimate power to use against the enemy.

One special ranger from Earth joins them.

Decade's story wasn't good especially the characters. How would you all rewrite Decade in your own version? Without him being a "destroyer of worlds". It's gotta say "hero" rewritten on him. Narutaki was no antagonist to me due to the annoying "Onore Decade!"

[GoldenXtreme]

Ah man, I actually only got into Toku about a year ago. A friend of mine was suggesting I watch this show called Kamen Rider, which I was aware existed but I had never been interested in watching it. She showed me a few of the openings and told me the concepts for some of the seasons. I debated starting with the original series or perhaps Kuuga, but W just called to me. I love, LOVE detectives a lot and the dual protagonist thing sounded so cool. I just couldn't resist and started there. I binge watched the whole thing and absolutely loved it, couldn't believe I had been living my life without this. Episode 48 had me sobbing and it was all around just a great experience. Of course wanted to try more after that and did OOO and hated it. After that I tried Fourze and it was another hit. I went full toku fan after that, there was no going back.

Even now nothing has topped W for me yet. I don't think it can get much better than a dual detective Rider for me, haha.

[EpsilonX]

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Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme

Ah man, I actually only got into Toku about a year ago. A friend of mine was suggesting I watch this show called Kamen Rider, which I was aware existed but I had never been interested in watching it. She showed me a few of the openings and told me the concepts for some of the seasons. I debated starting with the original series or perhaps Kuuga, but W just called to me. I love, LOVE detectives a lot and the dual protagonist thing sounded so cool. I just couldn't resist and started there. I binge watched the whole thing and absolutely loved it, couldn't believe I had been living my life without this. Episode 48 had me sobbing and it was all around just a great experience. Of course wanted to try more after that and did OOO and hated it. After that I tried Fourze and it was another hit. I went full toku fan after that, there was no going back.

Even now nothing has topped W for me yet. I don't think it can get much better than a dual detective Rider for me, haha.

What was it about OOO that made you hate it?

[GoldenXtreme]

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Originally Posted by EpsilonX

What was it about OOO that made you hate it?

I really, really dislike Eiji's characterization. He came across as a megalomaniac to me (especially during that Cell Medal scene near the end), and sometimes it felt like the show was going with this interpretation but presented it as positive (which is bad enough) yet at other times it felt like they were trying to portray him is just this amazing selfless hero. Like I could get behind a villain protagonist but I could not even figure out what they were trying to do. His and Ankh's relationship also just completely evaded my comprehension. Like dang Eiji, do you want to kill him or not?! I feel like the whole thing with Eiji trying to constantly fix the broken Taka Medal is so shoehorned in considering how many times Eiji literally tried to kill him.

This combined with some of the other issues I had with the show, like the surprisingly boring fights and Hina the amazingly bad female lead, really dragged the show down for me. I do think it has some really nice points though, many of the characters were fun (Ankh and Date and Chiyoko were tons of fun) and the general concept is great, but that makes it even more frustrating to me because I feel like they were wasted on OOO.

No offense to any OOO fans though. I just have a lot of PROBLEMS with this season. Feel free to tear my thoughts apart.

[Matrixbeast]

I really think you missed a lot of what went down in OOO, but it's fine~

[GoldenXtreme]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I really think you missed a lot of what went down in OOO, but it's fine~

If someone could explain it would be cool. I frequently feel like I just don't "get" it.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme

If someone could explain it would be cool. I frequently feel like I just don't "get" it.

I really don't have the energy to really explain the series, but the Ankh complaint kind of doesn't make sense.
He made a friend. His friend turned. Eiji wanted to save his friend and save the world, turned out he couldn't do both.
The broken medal isn't shoehorned in. Eiji wanted to stop Ankh once he reverted back to his old ways, but he still felt remorse. You're treating it like an absolute, which is what OOO was trying to speak against.

There's a lot to OOO, and by opening with you seeing Eiji as a megalomaniac kind of cements that, unless you rewatch it, even explaining it to you won't help

[GoldenXtreme]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I really don't have the energy to really explain the series, but the Ankh complaint kind of doesn't make sense.
He made a friend. His friend turned. Eiji wanted to save his friend and save the world, turned out he couldn't do both.
The broken medal isn't shoehorned in. Eiji wanted to stop Ankh once he reverted back to his old ways, but he still felt remorse. You're treating it like an absolute, which is what OOO was trying to speak against.

There's a lot to OOO, and by opening with you seeing Eiji as a megalomaniac kind of cements that, unless you rewatch it, even explaining it to you won't help

I have to admit I never really saw Ankh and Eiji as friends. It seemed more like they were just using each other for their own ends most of the time, and although there were some poignant scenes with them they both did genuinely try to kill each on occasion (although I guess one could argue that they had both progressed past that, but there certainly weren't enough episodes devoted to it). I do understand what you are saying though and I'm sure that is what they were going for, even if it didn't go over well with me.

I should also specify that I actually rather enjoyed OOO before the whole PuToTyranno thing happened, but after that it really started to drag for me. I even liked Eiji back then!

I don't want to rewatch it anytime soon though so you're gonna have to wait on that!

[Matrixbeast]

It's fine. I don't know how you didn't pick up on Eiji and Ankh's relationship, but I guess we all see things differently.

It seems like a lot of what you said kind of stems from you just getting the wrong message, hence why I think, if you really want to see OOO in the way most people do, I think rewatching it would do loads better than 2 paragraphs of explaining things

No need to rush. Though I am thinking about rewatching OOO myself, now (3rd favorite series), which is a problem since I really need to watch Gingaman.