[vin13ish]

Which Kamen Rider that is likely to be Main Focus for Kamen Rider Ghost V-Cinema?

Hikaru Ohsawa AKA Akari Tsukimura did a Weekly Playboy Magazine Interview and she was teasing about Kamen Rider Ghost V-Cinema being planned which I assumed to be released for April.

My bet will be Makoto Fukami/Specter since Alain/Necrom got his own mini-series. Do you think Makoto will be MAIN focus for Kamen Rider Ghost V-Cinema?

I kindly enjoy the concept of Kamen Rider's V-Cinema because it can also explore some of stuffs that didn't get explore for the show like Who was Lock Dealer Sid and Yoko Minato's past life before getting involved with Yggdrasil. I wonder if Kamen Rider Ghost V-Cinema might explore the stuff that didn't get explore on the show?

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by MarsHottentot

junkyard episode notwithstanding (that episode is facepalm material)

Huh, really? I can vaguely understand what you might mean by that but I don't remember it being bad at all.

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With a original TV series in the US, they can have a bigger budget and prove that not all henshin heroes are PR rip offs.

Which is kind of the problem, if I can speak a little more realistically for a second. Nobody is going to want to put the cash down to fund a show like that when it's an unproven concept. 'Tis the reality of TV being a business, sadly.

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Well Masked Rider and Dragon Knight pretty much tanked.

Hey, I didn't say it was an unjustified lack of interest.

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Originally Posted by vin13ish

Which Kamen Rider that is likely to be Main Focus for Kamen Rider Ghost V-Cinema?

My money's on a combo Specter/Necrom double-bill.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if Kamen Rider Onari somehow becomes a thing.

[Powerman293]

I hope Amazons does well enough in the west and Toei sees enough of an interest to at least have Kamen Rider DVDs and Blu-rays in the west. It'll take baby steps to get Kamen Rider to a level of interest to start selling them though. Look at Gundam, it took a long time for them to starting releasing DVDs in the states again.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

I think Kamen Rider will do well in the US if they do a original TV show with no Japanese footage. It would need a decent size budget, but I think it can work. With Amazons plan to be release in Amazon Prime US, maybe it can boost interest in the franchise outside the US. With a original TV series in the US, they can have a bigger budget and prove that not all henshin heroes are PR rip offs.

I would love to see a US version of Kamen Rider Black as an hour-long weekly sci-fi adventure show. Have the main character wander around, meeting new people and fighting Gorgom every week. Something like a more martial artsy version of the old Incredible Hulk show from the 70s.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Something like a more martial artsy version of the old Incredible Hulk show from the 70s.

Man, this is why I usually stay out of aimless speculation. It's all a lot of fun until the crushing realization hits that none of the awesome hypotheticals you're thinking up will ever happen.

I would sooo watch that, too...

[MarsHottentot]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

Unlike Toku, anime always been popular before we had DBZ in 1996 and Pokemon in 1998. People seem to forget the days of Streamline Pictures, Central Park Media, Pioneer and Manga Entertainment.

Okay, I'm 45, a life long nerd and can tell you that your use of the word "always" is so fast and loose it just about skidded off your post and crashed into the "MORE NEW POSTS" box! Anime and manga were a popular thing among hardcore nerds until the late 80's when shows like Voltron, Tranzor Z, Thundercats and Silverhawks (American funded, Japanese designed) made the American style of action cartoon quaint and, soon enough, extinct.

But it still wasn't until fairly recently (late 90's / 2000's) that genuine anime and, to a lesser extent, manga became mainstream. Granted, not knowing your age, that very well may be the entirety of your "always" but, in truth, that wasn't always the case. I remember kids complaining that manga and anime looked "cartoony" and that "everyone looks like a girl" right up until Fist of the North Star, AKIRA, DBZ and hentai (Urotsukodoji, mostly) made people get over that stuff.

So non-PRangers tokusatsu just needs it's DBZ.

[MarsHottentot]

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Huh, really? I can vaguely understand what you might mean by that but I don't remember it being bad at all.

Some things about it are awesome, like the reason they go there in the first place is just about genius, but...

Nozama Peston Service leave Nozomi and Mamoru in the main junkyard where the killer, not an Amazon but just a plain ol' psycho, beats the living piss out of them, with the plan the gut them both. The team swoop in for the save but, even though this guy has clearly killed numerous people and was about to kill their teammates, NPS decide "no" because the killer is a human, not an Amazon, so that's out of their job description. What? To make matters even more stupefying - they just leave! No anonymous calls to the police, no vigilante justice, just "our bad, thought you weren't human - happy hunting, bro!". Of course, the police rarely appear, if ever, in Amazons so... maybe there aren't any?

Despite this, I still love the show. I like what they've set up, it's pretty crazy: Kamen Rider Omega, the "hero" is fighting for the Amazons, while Kamen Rider Alpha, the "villain" fights for humanity. It's gonna be good!

[ValdorKing]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

I think Kamen Rider will do well in the US if they do a original TV show with no Japanese footage. It would need a decent size budget, but I think it can work. With Amazons plan to be release in Amazon Prime US, maybe it can boost interest in the franchise outside the US. With a original TV series in the US, they can have a bigger budget and prove that not all henshin heroes are PR rip offs.



Well Masked Rider and Dragon Knight pretty much tanked. Toei probably feels like there is not much of a market for Kamen Rider outside of Asia. With Super Sentai, it was used for Power Rangers and there was a decent market for it to be release on DVD.

I think the only other viable option to making a western Kamen Rider is filming them at the same time at the same locations so the footage would line up, at least for the action scenes. If I were to pick one series from the past few years to use the costumes/theme of it would either be Wizard or Drive. The theme of Gaim is just too weird to start out on and Ghost is too eastern with it's selection of historical figures.

As for Dragon Knight, I've never seen it but I feel it's main problem was it was just on a strange channel for a kids show. I had honestly never heard of "The CW4Kids" before I got into Kamen Rider nor had I ever seen any toys for it. It really wasn't set up to succeed.

[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by vin13ish

Which Kamen Rider that is likely to be Main Focus for Kamen Rider Ghost V-Cinema?

Problem is that Specter doesn't do much, and Necrom already got a show. Maybe Dark Ghost?

[MarsHottentot]

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Originally Posted by ValdorKing

I think the only other viable option to making a western Kamen Rider is filming them at the same time at the same locations so the footage would line up, at least for the action scenes. If I were to pick one series from the past few years to use the costumes/theme of it would either be Wizard or Drive. The theme of Gaim is just too weird to start out on and Ghost is too eastern with it's selection of historical figures.

As for Dragon Knight, I've never seen it but I feel it's main problem was it was just on a strange channel for a kids show. I had honestly never heard of "The CW4Kids" before I got into Kamen Rider nor had I ever seen any toys for it. It really wasn't set up to succeed.

It would seem that using the Power Rangers model of recycling action footage, if Masked Rider and Dragon Knight are to be believed, won't work for Kamen Rider. So don't even think about that as an issue.

We're saying just do an entirely American adaptation of a Kamen Rider script / concept (a common enough practice, see the American version of the British original The Office). Or what Switchblade is suggesting, use the bones of a Kamen Rider series (in his, Black) and put it into a format that is 'easy to understand' (wandering hero). But have it produced, top to bottom, stateside.

An aside: even as a seven year old, I found the Incredible Hulk to be repetitive and boring. You can only watch the Hulk beat up corrupt construction workers or hired thugs so many times!