[Aoi Kurenai]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

It has a guy trying to be a goofball. The useless female who is just there to look pretty and giving her undying support to the main character. The brooding rival who has to be snotty at every remark just because. The silly man who is supposed to be the boss. The other man, who has heart, but is useless. Oh yeah, and then there is the cosplayer, who is supposed to be weird and you are supposed to like her because she dresses weird and cutesy. Sorry, but I'm tired of watching the same thing over.

Where is the innovation? Where is the new feel? Where are actors that don't look like they were just in the last 4 Kamen Rider series? Everyone looks the same. I want new. I want unique. I want Toei to stop hiding in the safe zone and actually go back to taking risks with innovation.

As for slapstick, did you not see the scene where he transforms and is as fat as Kingpin? Yeah, I get it that it's supposed to be like the armor mode of Kabuto, but come on. It's not funny, it's not cute, it's just stupid.

He's not necessarily trying to be a goofball - he just happens to be accident prone. He's got one thing he's really good at in life but is unlucky in various other aspects of his life. That's pretty new. The "cosplayer" and the main female are one in the same. It's a nurse who has an identity she's trying to keep secret while working for the ministry of health, again, pretty new. The silly man isn't anyone's boss, he's a coworker studying various diseases, something I'm sure will tie into the story.

You have a brooding character, but he's not necessarily a rival. He doesn't like Emu, but he doesn't fight against him because he thinks Riders need to fight alongside each other against the monsters. That in itself is a fairly rare type of character.

You might not like what you see, but there's no lack of innovation here, and I think you're confusing the two. There's plenty of new in this show and that's evident right from the Level 1 forms, which, like them or not, are new.

[rego]

Eh...ill have to watch the show to have any solid feelings towards it (obviously)

The trailer did nothing for me personally all I can tell from it is It looks like your typical modern rider show

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

Kain, I don't want you to think that I'm saying your opinion is wrong, or that you absolutely have to like everything you're seeing. I'm not -- you can feel however you like. I just think you're leaping to a lot of conclusions that aren't necessarily supported (and in some cases are completely contradicted) by the information we've been presented.

So that whole post said everything way better than I could (and way less confrontationally), but I'd just like to reinforce that Ex-Aid seems to be about as fresh as you could possibly expect the yearly Kamen Rider show to be without being unreasonable. If you really need something totally different, there's always Amazons.

[MST3KFan]

The whole thing makes me think of the late 80s/early 90s with the neon outfits, and yet like a show I'd see from the late 90s/early 2000s somehow. ^_^

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by MST3KFan

The whole thing makes me think of the late 80s/early 90s with the neon outfits, and yet like a show I'd see from the late 90s/early 2000s somehow. ^_^

And I'm loving every second of it.

[DecadeW Climax]

I'm still reserving judgement until the trailer is subbed, but it looks cool and lvl. 2 looks a lot better in action. Ex-Aid does give off a more serious feel than Ghost though, but there was a fish-eye lens so who knows? Also, what is the handheld they were playing? Looks like a weird one screen Game & Watch.

[barnstenchfartface]

Really enjoyed the trailer. Lots of neat stuff, looks like something I would enjoy. Only thing I'm not too fond of are the video game effects. They seem a little obtrusive and their cartoonish look doesn't fit that well imo. I was expecting them to be more like what we saw in the cameo in the Ghost movie, with a more "digital," sorta transparent looking aesthetic. Not sure if I'm explaining myself too well.

Couple of thoughts on the Riders:

-Still convinced the Kujo guy is Lazer. Especially since in his introduction the name was yellow--Lazer's color. Granted, Emu himself had red, but the colors matched for Brave and Snipe.

If so, though, I'm not sure why they haven't actually said anything about it. Especially since it definitely looks like Lazer is going to be in the show from the very beginning. It's not like they're exactly hiding that Lazer is a Rider--he has a face and a belt and everything (though I guess the latter isn't that visible). Guess they're just saving the reveal for TV-Kun or something.

-And speaking of, I was 100% sure the president was GENM, but now I'm not so sure. They really seemed to be aiming to show Parad as a clear parallel of M, since in its limited time the trailer went out of its way to show both as gamers in similar ways. His wardrobe also matches GENM's colors, as does his name's colors (as opposed to the president's gray/black). It also makes sense given GENM's apparent role as a higher-up in the Bugsters' ranks and the fact that we haven't seen Parad's Bugster form.

However, this brings up the question of why then Parad's Kamen Rider form is called GENM and why he uses GENM technology at all. I mean, the whole "shady company responsible for everything" twist is visible from a mile away, but such an obvious connection and the whole thing just feels..weird. But then again, knowing as little as we do now (since the fact that GENM is called GENM hasn't even been officially revealed either) it makes sense that I do not understand nothing.

Anyway, whole thing looks intriguing. I'm looking forward to this show.

[kollekxon]

I dont know what to think at this point. I will give this a try.
One of the things that bugs me is the colors, too bright for me.
Another one of those "wait and see" moments.

[henshinzero]

Will after the first 10 episodes the riders remain in level 2 forms?

[AgileSiamang7]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

I'd also like to argue that a franchise that's lasted as long as Kamen Rider doesn't really have the option to innovate constantly considering they'd eventually run out of ideas

That, I disagree with. There are plenty of dumb or awesome ideas to apply to a superhero show about bug-eyed people. Some of us talked about having a doctor show a few years back, minus the added part of it being video game themed (though I'm sure someone brought up that theme alone as well).

Considering they've had detectives twice so far, but besides a red vehicle suit the shows almost completely different, and that we have an Amazon show that looks like the old Amazon on the outside but inside is completely different (such as not being censored by parents, as it's an online show first and won't necessarily be seen by their kids), the show could still use an old idea as a spine for a newer idea to grow over, giving us a fresh show while still having something nostalgic/recognizable about it.

But yeah, Kain is still greatly exaggerating what's going on in the trailer.