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08-15-2022, 11:31 AM | #21 |
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You know, in almost any other show I feel like the protagonist burning through their memories so they can help others to the point of forgetting their own family would have the emotional weight of a wrecking ball, but because of how sloppy Revice is in general it only really hits me on a level of "oh no". This show! It has such good ideas! But the implementation is never up to snuff! Gaaaaaaah!
Mostly off topic, but this episode also made me realize something else. I don't actually really see Ikki as a busybody? Maybe it is just something getting lost in translation here, but I don't really think he meddles in other people's business more than most of the other characters in the show do. Honestly if you pressed me to pick out a Rider I thought was Japan's Number 1 Busybody, I'd probably pick Shotaro from W...
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08-15-2022, 01:01 PM | #22 |
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I'd be willing to give Shotaro a pass considering his profession is literally a private investigator. Being a busybody and getting nosy is a prerequisite to solving most cases
I'd say Sougo is the biggest busybody. Motherfucker goes "I wanna be king!" and then proceeds to not stop bothering any random stranger.
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08-15-2022, 07:07 PM | #23 |
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I refrain for giving my thoughts in last week post because I want to see how this arc about George will wrap up. Honestly, I'm not disappointed at all and I finally see what I love about this series. Asakura had explained it well that Revice was really consistent at keeping the family theme at its core and making it as grounded as possible. I think the decision for making George the Final Boss, and Vice too in next week, was the best possible answer. I would be even more peeved if Giff survived to this point and ended up as the Final Boss. Making the characters that we all know and love be the Final Villain hit closer to home than insisting Giff or even Akaishi as the last hurdle.
Kamihoriuchi directing aside, these two episodes were all splendid and AMAZING. The acting in Revice... Let's just say it wasn't as the best the show could offer. But for these last two episodes, all of the casts brought their A to the game. Simple scene like Hiromi going back to his funny persona, Tamaki trying his best to 'not' impersonate Ikki, Hikaru being the only sane man in little scene that he had, and so on. It was even gut wrenching to see both Yukimi and Sakura, the girls in the family, absolutely didn't take on Ikki losing his memories with ease; that it was NOT okay for Ikki to forget them. I don't think the episode would have given such emotional impact, had it not been for all the cast and staff giving their best effort in this last encore. I think Revice's biggest misstep was they were focusing too much about Giff and Akaishi around the 30s. This was proven by when the show laser-focused at its core theme, they could pull out some of the best moments in the show. It's not that Giff or Akaishi were bad, they were just not as personal as if other characters took the spotlight as the villain. The only good thing that came from Giff and Akaishi arc was giving more development for Daiji and resulting the birth of Evilytylive, which was my favorite ep and moment in the show for Daiji
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08-16-2022, 01:40 AM | #24 |
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I refrain for giving my thoughts in last week post because I want to see how this arc about George will wrap up. Honestly, I'm not disappointed at all and I finally see what I love about this series. Asakura had explained it well that Revice was really consistent at keeping the family theme at its core and making it as grounded as possible. I think the decision for making George the Final Boss, and Vice too in next week, was the best possible answer. I would be even more peeved if Giff survived to this point and ended up as the Final Boss. Making the characters that we all know and love be the Final Villain hit closer to home than insisting Giff or even Akaishi as the last hurdle.
Kamihoriuchi directing aside, these two episodes were all splendid and AMAZING. The acting in Revice... Let's just say it wasn't as the best the show could offer. But for these last two episodes, all of the casts brought their A to the game. Simple scene like Hiromi going back to his funny persona, Tamaki trying his best to 'not' impersonate Ikki, Hikaru being the only sane man in little scene that he had, and so on. It was even gut wrenching to see both Yukimi and Sakura, the girls in the family, absolutely didn't take on Ikki losing his memories with ease; that it was NOT okay for Ikki to forget them. I don't think the episode would have given such emotional impact, had it not been for all the cast and staff giving their best effort in this last encore. I think Revice's biggest misstep was they were focusing too much about Giff and Akaishi around the 30s. This was proven by when the show laser-focused at its core theme, they could pull out some of the best moments in the show. It's not that Giff or Akaishi were bad, they were just not as personal as if other characters took the spotlight as the villain. The only good thing that came from Giff and Akaishi arc was giving more development for Daiji and resulting the birth of Evilytylive, which was my favorite ep and moment in the show for Daiji |
08-16-2022, 08:09 PM | #25 |
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Catching up on everything, and...
These was actually some of my favorite (recent) Revice Episodes! I know people were disappointed in hearing that we were getting another Rider as the final boss, but it's honestly fitting for the 50th Anniversary Season. Juuga is a great suit and the Driver's voice is pretty neat (though is it just me? Or does it sound suspiciously like Akaishi?) I do think, this arc was too short for two episodes, granted better than some of Revice's early episodes, and George becoming a Villain is a little left field and reminds me of Daiji's Villain Arc, which I'd rather not remember. But strangely, this worked for Revice's theme of family, and the resolution was still very nice. And I just want to say, seeing Ikki, Vice, Hikaru, and Hiromi (I don't know why, but it feels like seeing him back to his old self, post "death") messing around in Karizaki's house, just the pure idiocy of these four was beautiful. Karizaki should have done more Rider poses. Disappointed. Next Episode: You know, I think we all saw Revi vs. Vice from the very beginning.
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08-16-2022, 09:17 PM | #26 |
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It voiced by Ryo Horikawa the VA for Vegeta
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08-17-2022, 09:27 PM | #27 |
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Ah, I see. I haven't heard his voice in Japanese, but that's pretty cool! Thanks for sharing!
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08-18-2022, 05:54 AM | #28 |
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The end of Juuga's rampage... and the Igarashi's smiles for a time being.
I guess, as said here, this actually fits Revice's theme about families, and Ikki's someone who values families and tried to keep their good relationship, whenever if it's his family or others. For example, the recently appeared Bon here, tried to make him get along with his grandfather. He was someone that also uses good family relationship as his guide for others to improve, starting with them first. He didn't use his family's well-being as an excuse to ignore, though he can be occassionally oblivious of other's needs when his family is happy, such as prioritizing Happy Spa over being a Rider, or their onsen moments. And now, he does it to the major dysfunctional family, the Karizakis. It fits the show theme, but like many other things in Revice, wish that the idea is executed better... George's cause of world peace is only a front that he only wanted to spite on Masumi beyond the grave by proving his creations superior. Well, his prejudice towards demons would remain, so he'd destroy ViStamp-based (invented by Masumi) Rider system, and it's an irony as Masumi was prejudiced against demons before, like when he observed Ikki and Vice's growing relationship, and George took up that trait now. And as Juuga is purely human-based Rider system, now Ikki counters with how Giffard Rex ViStamp was a collaboration of George and his father, and thus if Ikki beats him, it'd prove that his father is important to George. But, after Juuga's showing before that surpassed Giff, Juuga just got beaten by regular finisher by Ultimate Revi/Vice? So taking down Juuga is still anti-climatic too, despite (and especially) Juuga consistently gaining upper hand before like he should. Technically before Ultimate Revi/Vice didn't fight together against Juuga, is this something like W to show off teamwork? Final bosses are beaten without much problem when Shotaro and Philip got their act together (against both Terror and Utopia Dopants), and now, Ikki and Vice are complete, thus they're unbeatable. But W had W (and Accel, for Terror) being constantly in the upper hand in the boss' defeat, so the fight is consistent, unlike Revice here that had Juuga being on upper hand before finisher. Other than that, to convince George that his father loved him, Ikki... absolved Masumi from his wrongdoings by glorifying him injecting Chic on him? What?? This is the type of solving parent-children conflict that should be avoided, like how Zi-O solves the Kamen Rider Quiz's problem with his father. It should really be emphasized that even if parents genuinely love their children, they can be misguided in showing it. Masumi injecting Chic on him shouldn't be condoned because Masumi loved him (which is true, but often used to absolve parents from their mistakes), it'd be better if what's used to remind George, are the flashback moments where Masumi was shown clearly getting along with kid George, helping and encouraging him to be better, and make it a case to not look past all the good things someone's done and only focus on one bad thing they've committed, countering the saying of “Men's evil manners live in brass; their virtues we write in water.”. Not only to remind George that he had received love from father in other times, but also to differentiate better which action is a genuine mistake and which one is actually malicious. After neutrailizing the threat of Juuga, the solution is done by giving George the picture he draw with Masumi together when he was a child. And George finally acknowledges that Masumi loved him due to realizing that the ViStamp idea was inspired by those pictures, which he then breaks down in the regret that he can never make up with his father now. Realizing The True Value Of Something When You Lose It type. And seems that the pictures alone are enough, not the entire room Masumi kept for George. For their methods to try calming George back, surprisingly the comedy is involved here with Hiromi's frantic behavior, as well as once more his serious demeanor being played for laughs in something as simple as looking for documents. Then Vice using open sesame to try opening the door, and later of Vice inadvertently easily opening the door. Regarding Ikki's busybody traits, this seems to be the kind of journey that comes full circle, both for Ikki and the other characters, though this doesn't mean they have something in them tested. Like for example, Shinji in Ryuki that had him being conflicted on stopping the Rider War or not due to the Rider's mortality or wishes, but ends up choosing to close the Mirror World even at the cost of their dreams (lol Ryuki comparison, after child doodling part here). Now Ikki's busybodiness is recognized as something benefical and admirable, with testaments from Tamaki, who acknowledged that he still lives due to Ikki. Though it's not only from Ikki intervening alone, it's also due to Ikki's sense of justice to try looking for solutions that doesn't involve killing. Ikki hasn't let go from his busybodiness completely, though he did get better at letting others handle their problems, but now, Daiji and Sakura supported Ikki's busybodiness due to the 2 reformed former villains being among the benefical effects of it. And not only the characters, I was puzzled too at Tamaki's impression of Ikki, but yeah it's still worth laughing over, it's harmless even if wrong. Quote:
Mostly off topic, but this episode also made me realize something else. I don't actually really see Ikki as a busybody? Maybe it is just something getting lost in translation here, but I don't really think he meddles in other people's business more than most of the other characters in the show do. Honestly if you pressed me to pick out a Rider I thought was Japan's Number 1 Busybody, I'd probably pick Shotaro from W...
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