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09-26-2022, 03:58 AM | #11 |
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The preview really showed a death flag for Neon, but there's quite a simple revelation that solved that. Still expected that Kanato is out though, the other potentially eliminated player, which'd mean it's true that fleshing out a character means they soon would be out. Actually didn't expect for Neon to get more than just one-time focus (previous episode), which is good.
So there are reasons behind Irumi's parenting, which is due to Neon being kidnapped when little (along with huge ransom money plus her famous status), and that. This is the overprotective-type, with her putting GPS trackers on Neon too, so even her realizing that streaming exposes her location won't help. The slap scene is also brutal, which is good to increase the intensity of the abuse and make her a detestable figure, and her gaslighting also doesn't help. Irumi being overprotective would claim that she wants the best for her, but as Neon pointed out, Irumi treated her like a doll instead of a person, especially other than Neon not being a child anymore, Neon had become a competent fighter at this point (including blocking Irumi's slap, outside Rider), a growth which Irumi can potentially ignore. Speaking of Irumi, this episode also showed that Neon is not like her, regarding her reaction of being infected. Neon isn't someone who acts like a jerk to push others away for their sake, though not successful (but it worked out for her this way), she explains the situation and reasons to tell others to stay away from her, like not wanting them to get infected. Though if there are those who still insist to help, it's their decision even after knowing her infection. Wonder if Ace actually claims he only wants the points from killing zombie so that Neon won't tell him to go and he can listen and stay until he can inform her later. Afterwards, it shows that Neon is quite strong-willed too, to try when there's an actual chance (informed by Ace), despite being privileged which can imply that she's only handed everything on a silver platter without having to work. Keiwa always meant well to anyone, including Neon here, and his care is just extra to constantly try to be in her side, and later giving up his Boost Buckle once again as someone else needs it, but yeah, as Neon said, merely saying kind things don't always help. That can veer into toxic positivity if it's too severe. Ace is the one that actually solved this problem, due to revealing the nature of DGP of resetting injuries. It seems that it's not about being nice or rude, but an important thing to help others is actual solution, if it exists, which requires knowledge and experience (though being nice while knowledgeable is better, insufferable geniuses can be more obnoxious). Keiwa isn't a Neon fan, but Neon is still a human being, so Keiwa can still be sad at her death due to a loss of human life, like Ginpen before, though dunno if Keiwa now understands why Neon wants to have normal life after hearing her phone talk (which is what made Sara a fan). Michinaga continues his ruthlessness here that he'd take down Neon without second thought. But yeah, as Ace pointed out, being trigger happy isn't exactly smart or benefical, as Neon or Kanato hasn't turned into zombie yet thus Michinaga won't get any points yet. Being stupid isn't only applicable on naivety like Keiwa or Neon, but also making rash decisions of which as Ace pointed out, Michinaga is bullheaded... like his buffalo motif. Likely the reason why he can't beat Ace, he even pistol-whips with Magnum. Michinaga would be ok with Neon being killed, as he'd prefer others abandon Neon so she'd rot, but he won't gain the advantage he needed to beat Ace. Michinaga seems to be a schrodinger's asshole too, claiming that he's just kidding in his act to finish off Neon after Ace tells more about the DGP rules. Kanato is out, and it's quite karmic. One of the DGP rules is that, being a griefer reduces your score (-1000), and Kanato plays like that, as someone who tries to ruin or hinder most other players, like being a teamkiller. Being a misantrophe is his downfall in DGP, as he can't stop antagonizing other humans in battle, which in turn he unintentionally reduces his points to lose to Neon. He's a better fit in Ryuki's Rider War, where you're meant to kill off other players. He seems to be only teleported out, and I wish that Kanato can find a way to cause another problem outside of DGP, or even disrupting it, so while he's eliminated, he's not exactly written out of the series. OK, finally now I'm more suspicious of Morio, like many others. He too deliberately let the Jamatos attack the civilians before saving them, like what Michinaga accused Shirowe of. His attitude after Neon got infected is also a bit more extreme, like locking her up not unlike Irumi's actions, quite a change from though it's done so that she won't infect others. His talk about DGP's wish also seems to be purely personal like money, though when Keiwa talked about DGP taking other's lives, Morio also only talked about risking his life, not about taking others's lives without regard. For all Neon's badassery in this episode, she's still not that close to others and only barely beat Kanato's score. Obviously not beating Ace or Michinaga, but I thought her points can beat Morio's or closer to him and Keiwa's (though now Morio makes use of rescuing scores). But it's not for naught that Keiwa lends Neon Boost Buckle, as Neon doesn't seem to be a good fighter before. In her Rider action, it seems that the difference between the upper and lower half is that, (upper-half/lower-half: ) Hammer/Boost means Neon gets to use Raise Hammer as weapon and her kicking/movements get augmented by boost, while Boost/Hammer gets her hammer boosted/enlarged. So it seems that Boost on upper-half combines both Buckles while Boost on lower half gets the Rider to use both Buckle separately.
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09-26-2022, 09:48 AM | #12 |
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Also I noticed in this ep (maybe it's the same thing in Ep1~3) we have A LOT of scenes with shots on Ace not talking and just giving a look to someone else talking (like 7:10 and 12:10) or even a mouth movement at 6:00 that says more about him than any line in the show (but we are not allowed to understand what, as of now). I really hope we know about his backstory soon.
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So there are reasons behind Irumi's parenting, which is due to Neon being kidnapped when little (along with huge ransom money plus her famous status), and that. This is the overprotective-type, with her putting GPS trackers on Neon too, so even her realizing that streaming exposes her location won't help. The slap scene is also brutal, which is good to increase the intensity of the abuse and make her a detestable figure, and her gaslighting also doesn't help. Irumi being overprotective would claim that she wants the best for her, but as Neon pointed out, Irumi treated her like a doll instead of a person, especially other than Neon not being a child anymore, Neon had become a competent fighter at this point (including blocking Irumi's slap, outside Rider), a growth which Irumi can potentially ignore.
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Kanato is out, and it's quite karmic. One of the DGP rules is that, being a griefer reduces your score (-1000), and Kanato plays like that, as someone who tries to ruin or hinder most other players, like being a teamkiller. Being a misantrophe is his downfall in DGP, as he can't stop antagonizing other humans in battle, which in turn he unintentionally reduces his points to lose to Neon. He's a better fit in Ryuki's Rider War, where you're meant to kill off other players. He seems to be only teleported out, and I wish that Kanato can find a way to cause another problem outside of DGP, or even disrupting it, so while he's eliminated, he's not exactly written out of the series.
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Now that I think about it, I noticed that IzuSubs translated one of Michinaga's lines in Episode 2 as "scrubs", when "noobs" would've been more accurate, the same mistake they made with Ren saying the same line in Kamen Rider Saber (whereas TV-Nihon correctly used "noobs"). Maybe they don't know what that word means?
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09-26-2022, 10:46 AM | #13 |
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honestly kinda wish they kept Kantaro a little longer (even if what happened to him was imo an appropriate fate for him)
On that note theory time based on what we know from the Revice tie inmovie. the Movie says Ace is the "lone survivor" so I expect something bad happened to him and THAT'S what he's wanting to undo and maybe the show ends with him deciding to grant everyone else (other than Kantaro for obvious reasons) wish, tbf Takahashi has shown he isn't going to disort the show just to have a happy ending/isn't afraid to not end on a happy note EDIT I do like how there is an early show mystery like Saber but it's already EXPONENTIALLY More interesting than Saber was early on because it was NOT hard to guess Touma was from the wonder world/Kento's dad wasn't Calibur at that point in time/Daichi wasn't evil because why not/one of the head honchos of the SOL being the main villain Last edited by Mmicb0b; 09-26-2022 at 10:49 AM.. |
09-26-2022, 11:25 AM | #14 |
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I have a few ideas for what Da-Paan's disqualification could mean:
A) He's counted as a civilian death and brought back to life as plain old Kanato with no memories of the Desire Grand Prix; but unlike the other Riders and many other civilians, he isn't invited to play in the next round of the Desire Grand Prix. B) He's dead dead, deader than dead, deadified, dead from the neck up, dead from the neck down; much like Shirowe and Ginpen, he's not coming back to life. It's just that he was killed by the DGP as a consequence of getting last place. C) He's been turned into a Jamato. This one isn't technically mutually exclusive with B; I've been thinking for a while that Riders who die or get disqualified might be getting turned into the very Jamato that their surviving peers are fighting. |
09-27-2022, 02:12 PM | #15 |
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Except the civilians Shirowe saved were already endangered when he found them, so Morio's actions are even more controversial for setting up his own heroism opportunities like that. In the event that he failed to save them, then he could probably claim justification from the fact that civilian deaths are temporary, but it's still a bad look for him and against the spirit of the game. Lots of games have similar exploits where you can indirectly kill NPCs.
Oh right, I got some... likely Imperer vibes from Mary (though the one who's constantly trying to team up with anyone like Imperer was Neon previously), that those are the Riders in battle royale season that put a friendly front that makes it creepy as it hides their sinister side underneath.
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09-27-2022, 05:09 PM | #16 |
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I forgot to watch yesterday, oops! I continue to find this show very solid, even if right now we are still just building the plot up and introducing intrigue and mechanics. At this point I am solidly intrigued by the "main 4" Riders and how their arcs will progress since they all have a very solid foundation. Neon's conflict with her cloying family is a bit... overdone, but the implementation is good and I'm curious to see how it progresses. Keiwa is a sweet kid, but you can tell he's going to struggle to keep his idealism over time. Ace and Buffa (I'll get his name down eventually) are both total enigmas, but we keep getting intriguing bits and pieces of info on them. I also have to agree with the assessment that this show's reserved use of humor is definitely to its benefit. Real good!
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09-27-2022, 09:05 PM | #17 |
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One thing's for sure. Reiwa Rider Girls seem to be getting better and better each season.
I think this show, while not as much as I'd like, it's not too rushed and manages to make good use of its cast thus far. Na-Go had some good development, and even better action, boy, that Boost Hammer combo was great! And Tycoon swinging her at the enemies was amazing. Didn't really care for Da-Pan, liked the Polar Bear guy more, but the detail of the Zombiefication present in the eyes was neat. Next Episode: G is for Good. E is for Evil. A is for Allies. T is for Teamwork. S is for Stop this gosh darn bit right now, me!
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09-28-2022, 10:33 AM | #18 |
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I would be 100% down for this just being a series-long running gag with new bear Rider getting introduced and then killed off every few episodes. Just make them the Spinal Tap drummers of Kamen Rider.
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09-28-2022, 04:25 PM | #19 |
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Everyone pretty much already said what could be said about the story, I'm impressed at how this was handled with the relationship between Neon and her mother being a bit more complex than meets the eye, but the true highlight? The action still looks sick as hell. Buffa brutally using the magnum as a club and the kick ass visual effect used on the Zombie finisher with Geats' arm seeming corrupted was pretty damn good. I sincerely hope that this show keeps this level of promise and delivers
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