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08-28-2022, 11:25 PM | #21 |
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In the end, Revice is a slightly above average Kamen Rider series for me.
I never really became attached to Vice the same way I felt about Imagin or traditional secondary riders. As for the suits, I know they were divisive, but I didn't like them as much as Zero One and Saber. They felt a lot less cohesive than those two shows. I think in general, anniversary seasons just aren't my thing. On the bright side, I did like the family theme a lot. It's a question I always have with a lot of Japanese shows, not just toku- where are the parents! Overall I'd say Reiwa is going strong so far. I'm super excited for Geats!
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08-29-2022, 04:20 AM | #22 |
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Me last episode: "Well, it was an okay ride, but at least there weren't any stupid fart jokes."
Me this episode: "Rats!"
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08-29-2022, 09:23 PM | #23 |
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I liked the finale. It's been a long time since Rider did a finale that focused more on a big emotional moment instead of a fight. I've had a pretty rough year, so the whole bit with Ikki and Vice hit me really hard with its "going to the dog park one last time before putting him down" vibe.
I've seen a lot of people be pretty down on Revice in the last few months, but I've generally enjoyed it a lot. Definitely not challenging Hibiki, W, or Ex-Aid for placement, but it's probably my favorite series since Build. Not by a huge margin (outside of Zi-O), but I think it was more consistently enjoyable than Zero-One or Saber. The plot absolutely had some peaks and valleys - I suspect that elements like Daiji's dalliance with the enemy will play better when binging the show than week-to-week - but I consistently loved the cast and characters. Ikki was a good main character and Sakura is easily the most well-realized female Rider we've ever gotten. Daiji was also there. I'm going to miss the show now that it's over. |
08-29-2022, 10:33 PM | #24 |
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6.5-7/10 season for me. A nice experiment from TOEI but could have used more cohesiveness and answers to plot holes
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08-30-2022, 09:35 AM | #25 |
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Thank you for giving us one heck of a year, Revice! If there’s one word that I could sump Revice as, it would be the word “Warm”. I always feel a lot of attachment during my experience with Revice. There’s always this fuzzy warm feeling in my chest whenever the show put the family them at its core as grounded as possible. There’s some sort of “Welcome home” feelings that I had during this past year.
This episode was the perfect finale that I could wish for Revice. This might be the lowest stake episode for a finale since Kuuga in EP 49. There’s not lingering threat, there’s no apocalypse, no life-threatening stake, no personal clash, etc. Half of the episode was just TWO people having the last blast of their life with their limited time. It was honestly a pleasant experience to watch Ikki and Vice goofing around for the last encore. I was particularly mad they had to abruptly stop the fun when Vice suggested to use Volcano and Barid Rex. I was like “Oh come on! Is it over already that fast? I want to see Volcano and Barid Rex for one last dance in the series.” This was also the first time since ages where we saw our Main Riders used first quarter toys in the finale like this. The last time maybe Fourze or Wizard. It’s always a nice gesture to see earlier toys being brought back in action, especially for the last quarter of the series like this. I want to see Eagle, Brachio, and Jackal Genome too but that was a bit of greedy for what forms that we got in this episode. It was also a pleasure to see some of Victims of the Week back for the finale. There was Ikki’s Ex, Bon, the comedians’ manager and even FREAKING Spada was on it. While it would have been good if we saw some of these people back sporadically during the shows’ run, it was still a pleasant surprise to have them back again for this instance. It made all of Ikki’s busybody business in the first half of the show felt more meaningful and had bigger impact than we expected. I know this finale won’t be the cup of taste for everyone. I even know there were some flaws here and there, especially with Ikki realizing everything was an act because of Lovekov’s actions. Still, I can’t help but felt satisfied with our material here. There was some sort of fun between its characters and its real-life casts that we could sense even outside from the screen. I wish more Kamen Rider’s finales were more relaxing and no too high of a stake. This finale reminded me a bit of how much I love Zenkaiger’s finale too. While the stakes were a bit higher there, it was simply Kaito’s one last act to bring back his beloved friends. The world was at peace but you know it wasn’t Zenkaiger if it was only Kaito without his Kikainoid friends. I would rate Revice as 8/10. Saber last year was 9/10 and Zero-One was 7/10. Basically, a bit of in the middle between those two shows. Saber was honestly a blast and amazing experience last year. The last time I had such a blast was with Build. Revice was almost as good as Saber but there were still tiny missteps that kinda dragged down Revice a bit from Saber. It was at least a pleasant run compared to Zero-One. Zero-One was pretty enjoyable but it was held back by more missteps and frustrating moments. My experience watching Zero-One was also hindered by Covid which impacted and hindered show by some margins. If I must say, Revice’s misstep was maybe the show somehow needed to be a full two-parter shows like Double, Drive and Zi-O. I don’t know but Revice always landed perfectly when it did some two-parter. Some examples are Ikki’s Ex story in ep 3-4, Jeanne’s debut in 11-12, ‘Wakabayashi’ betrayal in 13-14, Volcano and Tamaki in ep 17-18 and Ikki and Ziko’s soccer past in 30-31. I think Revice’s lowest valley was during ep 34-38 which was one long of arc in building Daiji as a villain and giving Akaishi the spotlight. It wasn’t that terrible per se but I understand why at this point people started growing tired with Revice. This one long arc where the show must do things to pad the times was not a pleasant experience. After Giffard Rex’s debut, we started getting back those lovely two-parters back and it was more effective for the show. Ranging from the Ushijima family in 39-40, Genta and Vail’s last stand in 41-42, Daiji’s PERFECT episode in 43-44, Gifu’s final act in 45-46, a limelight for George in 47-48 and the best finale for the series in ep 49-50. These couple of episodes were all two-parters but there were emphasize and focus on each of the characters, better than what we had in Revice in 30s. Sorry if this was a one long ramble. I might be in the minority here but I DO love Revice. It’s been long since I have watched a Tokusatsu with such pleasant feelings. If Zenkaiger was fun, Saber was bombastic, then Revice was a warming experience. I wouldn’t recommend Revice for someone who wanted to see a Kamen Rider series with a huge and over-arching plot like Build or Gaim. If you want to just want to have some fun time and a pleasant time, I could recommend you to watch this show. Goodbye, Revice! This was a pleasant ride to have with you. Even with all the negative criticisms out there, I just want to say : “君はそのままで”
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08-30-2022, 05:42 PM | #26 |
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Thank you for giving us one heck of a year, Revice! If there?s one word that I could sump Revice as, it would be the word ?Warm?. I always feel a lot of attachment during my experience with Revice. There?s always this fuzzy warm feeling in my chest whenever the show put the family them at its core as grounded as possible. There?s some sort of ?Welcome home? feelings that I had during this past year.
This episode was the perfect finale that I could wish for Revice. This might be the lowest stake episode for a finale since Kuuga in EP 49. There?s not lingering threat, there?s no apocalypse, no life-threatening stake, no personal clash, etc. Half of the episode was just TWO people having the last blast of their life with their limited time. It was honestly a pleasant experience to watch Ikki and Vice goofing around for the last encore. I was particularly mad they had to abruptly stop the fun when Vice suggested to use Volcano and Barid Rex. I was like ?Oh come on! Is it over already that fast? I want to see Volcano and Barid Rex for one last dance in the series.? This was also the first time since ages where we saw our Main Riders used first quarter toys in the finale like this. The last time maybe Fourze or Wizard. It?s always a nice gesture to see earlier toys being brought back in action, especially for the last quarter of the series like this. I want to see Eagle, Brachio, and Jackal Genome too but that was a bit of greedy for what forms that we got in this episode. It was also a pleasure to see some of Victims of the Week back for the finale. There was Ikki?s Ex, Bon, the comedians? manager and even FREAKING Spada was on it. While it would have been good if we saw some of these people back sporadically during the shows? run, it was still a pleasant surprise to have them back again for this instance. It made all of Ikki?s busybody business in the first half of the show felt more meaningful and had bigger impact than we expected. I know this finale won?t be the cup of taste for everyone. I even know there were some flaws here and there, especially with Ikki realizing everything was an act because of Lovekov?s actions. Still, I can?t help but felt satisfied with our material here. There was some sort of fun between its characters and its real-life casts that we could sense even outside from the screen. I wish more Kamen Rider?s finales were more relaxing and no too high of a stake. This finale reminded me a bit of how much I love Zenkaiger?s finale too. While the stakes were a bit higher there, it was simply Kaito?s one last act to bring back his beloved friends. The world was at peace but you know it wasn?t Zenkaiger if it was only Kaito without his Kikainoid friends. I would rate Revice as 8/10. Saber last year was 9/10 and Zero-One was 7/10. Basically, a bit of in the middle between those two shows. Saber was honestly a blast and amazing experience last year. The last time I had such a blast was with Build. Revice was almost as good as Saber but there were still tiny missteps that kinda dragged down Revice a bit from Saber. It was at least a pleasant run compared to Zero-One. Zero-One was pretty enjoyable but it was held back by more missteps and frustrating moments. My experience watching Zero-One was also hindered by Covid which impacted and hindered show by some margins. If I must say, Revice?s misstep was maybe the show somehow needed to be a full two-parter shows like Double, Drive and Zi-O. I don?t know but Revice always landed perfectly when it did some two-parter. Some examples are Ikki?s Ex story in ep 3-4, Jeanne?s debut in 11-12, ?Wakabayashi? betrayal in 13-14, Volcano and Tamaki in ep 17-18 and Ikki and Ziko?s soccer past in 30-31. I think Revice?s lowest valley was during ep 34-38 which was one long of arc in building Daiji as a villain and giving Akaishi the spotlight. It wasn?t that terrible per se but I understand why at this point people started growing tired with Revice. This one long arc where the show must do things to pad the times was not a pleasant experience. After Giffard Rex?s debut, we started getting back those lovely two-parters back and it was more effective for the show. Ranging from the Ushijima family in 39-40, Genta and Vail?s last stand in 41-42, Daiji?s PERFECT episode in 43-44, Gifu?s final act in 45-46, a limelight for George in 47-48 and the best finale for the series in ep 49-50. These couple of episodes were all two-parters but there were emphasize and focus on each of the characters, better than what we had in Revice in 30s. Sorry if this was a one long ramble. I might be in the minority here but I DO love Revice. It?s been long since I have watched a Tokusatsu with such pleasant feelings. If Zenkaiger was fun, Saber was bombastic, then Revice was a warming experience. I wouldn?t recommend Revice for someone who wanted to see a Kamen Rider series with a huge and over-arching plot like Build or Gaim. If you want to just want to have some fun time and a pleasant time, I could recommend you to watch this show. Goodbye, Revice! This was a pleasant ride to have with you. Even with all the negative criticisms out there, I just want to say : ?君はそのままで? |
08-30-2022, 08:28 PM | #27 |
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It doesn't get much better than this, does it? A Kamen Rider finale where Kamen Rider rides his bike and everything! Right off the bat, there are so many touches throughout Revice's final "fight" that made me utterly adore it. Remember how I said last year I was kinda hoping for some big Saber fashion show where he'd use all his old forms in the end? Well hey, turns out Revice has my back there, handily cementing its status as the current Reiwa king of actually remembering those old toys every once in a while. They even put Megaladon's Remix in there, as if specifically to apologize for its sole previous in-series appearance being when Barid Rex busted out all 10 of them. That is love right there, from the production team. And that's just talking about how the merch is worked in! The whole idea of Revi and Vice having this last little bout amongst all their memories (and all our memories) of them together was especially well-realized, I thought. It's a strong concept to tug at the heartstrings, and while I can't describe it very well, it just kinda looks like something that came out as good as it did because Shibasaki is the director here. I'm just not sure anyone else would've thought to really make those clips part of the scenes in the same way, and that alone made me really glad he got to close out the show he began this year. It's a dang strong finale, all around, really. Something waaaaay outside the norm, and an appropriately personal conclusion to a series that centered its thematic core around the relationships we have with ourselves as much as it did the ones we have with each other. We're at maximum Revice-ness the whole time here, and that's everything I could want. I'd be preaching to the choir if I said it was a bumpy road getting there, but I can only hope it's every bit as obvious that this series managed to dash gracefully across that finish line when it counted most. At the end of the day, I think I actually just really liked Revice? It took me way too long to realize it. To begin with, I was/am/will always be madly in love with Saber, which meant that going in, there was basically nothing Revice could do to capture my heart in any meaningful way. Sure, I enjoyed those early episodes, and recognized their quality, but I wasn't truly connecting with the series. And when it hit that stretch after the midpoint that a lot of people didn't like all that much, I was honestly right there with them for a good bit, which was quite the scare. Can you even imagine a world where I came in here after the finale and said "this Kamen Rider show was just meh, okay I guess..."? But so many of the things that were bugging people were starting to get under my skin, too, which, even as sporadic as my posts were, you can see if you go look, as my praise became noticeably more forced, and, unbelievably, I even criticized Revice at points! I didn't *want* to sit there berating a show from a franchise I love, but with all those nitpicks piling up, I had lost sight of how to put that negativity aside and see the show for its strong points instead. Luckily enough, I was also finishing up a complete rewatch of Zero-One around this time, and I once again found myself chuckling right along with Aruto and Horobi as I realized how much I had been wasting my time with all this malice nonsense. I had literally learned this exact lesson once already. It's the magic of that show's last episode, I suppose, but it has a way of clearing my head. Suddenly I couldn't believe how much I'd been failing to give Revice credit for what it's doing, and my appreciation for the series as a whole ended up exploding during a period where it seems like most people were still hating it. I'd put the way I feel about Revice now in my own words, but Shouko Fujibayashi wrote far better ones: 君に足りないものなんてなかったって、痛いほどに今分かったから Maybe it's only natural I'd see some similarity between the way my opinion on the series has changed and the way Ikki and Vice's relationship grew over the past year. Not that it actually lines up that directly, but listening to the song that (beautifully) scores most of the action here, those particular lyrics struck a chord with me. After spending so much time wanting Revice to be all these things it wasn't, lately, I've come around on it to the extent that I can't imagine asking it to give me anything more than it already has. When I started thinking about the bigger picture, all those flaws just stopped seeming worth complaining about. What I'm probably going to remember about Revice the most fondly is what an immensely strong thematic throughline it had. Not all of Revice's characters are connected by blood, but nearly every single one of them is connected by failure and regret. It's an angle for a superhero story I thought was immensely fresh, focusing not merely on the importance of being kind to others, but placing a spotlight on how people are often cruel to themselves. We beat ourselves up for our mistakes. We get scared of the parts of ourselves we don't like. We try to hide those things away, and pretend they aren't there. Or maybe we simply condemn ourselves to the notion that we can't ever improve. That we don't deserve it, when we carry darkness in our hearts. As much as you can criticize some of the trouble Revice had with the literal rules of how demons and all that work, I firmly believe the show did some commendable work with the concept. It's a series filled to the brim with people who have to learn to face themselves. A lot of them go about it in a more traditional, metaphorical sense than the Igarashi family does, but everyone has to do the hard work of forgiving themselves at some point. That's not a lesson I see from a show like this every day, even though it's maybe an important one to teach. It's not merely okay to love yourself; it's downright healthy. And nowhere does the series display that more prominently than with its title characters, which is something this finale does a fantastic job capturing. Ikki and Vice at the start of the show were all friction and bickering, and I won't soon be forgetting the journey they took from there to the kind of harmony that exists between them at the end. Ikki learning to accept Vice results in positive growth for the both of them, to the point where a selfish and irresponsible demon can learn to be a doting busybody, and a pathologically selfless egotist can find it in himself to actually step aside and let somebody save him for once. And really, that's an amazing capstone to Ikki's development. He realizes what's going on, and humbly accepts everyone else's resolve instead of forcing his own on the world. Totally unthinkable behavior for him in the beginning. I can entirely believe the Ikki we leave off on might finally manage to start chasing his own dream after the journey he's been on. It's exactly like the episode says -- your best times are still ahead. It can be tough to admit it to yourself, but there's nothing more freeing than learning to believe that. I really can't think of a more appropriate final statement for Revice to have left off on than that. Wonderful message, for a wonderful finale, to a wonderful series.
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08-31-2022, 01:06 AM | #28 |
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It's quite nice to see people looking back fondly of this trash. I'm glad some people enjoyed it~
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09-01-2022, 08:00 AM | #29 |
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Despite its flaws, Revice delivered a great finale.
It's kind of nice and refreshing to see the final battle not be one of good vs evil, but two close companions have fun and make some nice memories with each other before they part ways. I genuinely enjoyed this episode, and all of the early victims appear, heck the previous episode too if I'm honest (Except for the return of fart joke). Looking back, Revice had a strong debut. It was a unique way that fit for what Revice wanted to do, but as others have stated, they did kind of muck it up a bit in the middle. Sometimes it was padded out, sometimes things didn't work as well as they should have, sometimes I even didn't want to tune in that week (not all of the times I delayed watching Revice since most of the time I just had no time). But what it set out to do still had so many great things, despite all the times I didn't enjoy it. Heck. Everyone was dreading Vice, and yet here I am, loving the character (shocking, I know). At first, we thought he'd be Momotarou 2.0, but he did become his own character. My only grievance with him is that this show didn't feel as much like it was about two as one Kamen Rider, but more like Revi and his sidekick Vice, which the middle of the show made too obvious. It's probably the one thing this show failed, which brings it back to the point about it having not managed the middle parts better. Memories, family, demons, these things are things this show stuck by and even if there were so many times the show had its lows, they still managed to pull them off in a satisfactory way. And that's about all I can ask for. So, in conclusion: Revice laid out great groundwork, but struggled to keep it up as long as they did. I'd say so far, Saber might actually be my favorite Reiwa Season, with Zero-One bouncing between first and second, while Revice sits on third. But I will give it this, it sits on third proudly. It might not be one I'd rewatch, but it still had so many things I think it did better than even the two I like better. Also, Geats cameo. He really reminds me of Gai from Zero-One. Also, I still adore the belt's voice.
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Latepost due to getting my hands full previously.
I would say at least Ikki regaining his memories didn't come out of nowhere, as it already had a setup even if it was a few episodes ago, with the reason of Ikki considering a Vice a family that their contract was ongoing. But like before, Ikki's smart and resourceful, and it's consistent here, thus Lovekov revealing herself would had Ikki realizing that Vice's trying to sacrifice herself to get his memories back, though it seems that, like other "cruel" to be kind (well in this case, only the emotional damage to Ikki before), it doesn't need to be done, if it's about Ikki fighting as Revice only, not killing Vice. Though Ikki agreed to choose everyone else over Vice here, albeit obviously saddened by Vice's departure, but the final fight is canceled and turned into them playfully fighting instead, which shows how far they've come that now they can't ever be hostile to each other anymore, and there's some goodness in the varied old powers being used, which makes sense because they aren't looking to quickly kill each other. The next part of the episodes are simply the cast's activities after all the series, and other than Ikki losing Vice (which is mitigated by him forgetting Vice), this bittersweet ending leans heavily on happy. Ikki returns into playing soccer and being encouraged by his idol Miura to go pro, and he's apparently better than before. Probably due to his fighting as Kamen Rider, but Ikki returning there seems to show that Ikki wants to pursue his dreams instead of which probably made him resentful. Daiji now can shine as the founder of Blue Bird, and getting what he wanted to steer Fenix to the right path. Sakura's now being a normal schoolgirl studying for medical school, dunno what made her interested in that, though it's not exactly nowhere. And Yukimi followed Genta's footsteps, which tbf, she has never ridiculed Genta for his streaming before. So Tamaki and Aguilera canceled their plan to turn themselves in? Though yeah working on Blue Bird is more useful than being imprisoned. Which Orteca still is due to him being left normal human, of which his actions led into only George that wanted to visit him, and also, he got quite appropriate punishment of 666 years, far beyond average human's lifespan, and it's something realistic for crimes that are really severe. For the series itself, as I and many others have said, Revice started out smooth, if rather quick, but fell apart midway. It was a series that is refreshing to give the main characters full-fledged family (and eventually, being Rider families except Yukimi), and started out in an MOTW format that involved troubled people being used by Deadmans to manifest their inner demons as the monsters to fight, and it transitioned smoothly into the main plot of how being exposed into Riders and demons potentially ruin the Igarashi's harmony, inside or out, but would fulfill the goals of the villains and potentially George. Later the main villain faction breaks apart in quite punching twist. After that though, there's some rough path like the handling of the former generals, sans Orteca (which was the highlight), but it didn't impact the series as a whole, and seemingly getting back to track at ep. 25 for Vail plot twist, making use of Hiromi as a convincing buildup. But after that, there are too much ideas that the series end up often leaving in half-assed way, like the Ushijimas being a fake family, George focusing on new daddy issues with Masumi, the establishment of Weekend, the three siblings going on different path, other demon conflicts of the Igarashis, building up Giff as an active participant, Giff's underlings fulfilling his goal, even the background of the former generals, and of course Ikki's amnesia. The story quite shuffles focus into what's needed, and some got less focus between these jugglings like the Ushijimas, or even Ikki and Vice with their amnesia used as only the series closure. There's also inconsistency like how Kagerou was killed despite the implication of the previous buildup. The highs of the series at this point was reached only by the side medias like Vail Legacy, and in the series proper, it was ep. 42 due to being similar to said miniseries, with it making use of Hiromi's return and giving a good theme about forgiving yourself with a fight that is related to solve the problem. It'd be better if Revice isn't distracting itself as much from its family focus, like the screentime of Giff's underlings, which is the main theme of Revice and what made it different. Regarding the characters some I want to talk about: - Ikki presented a problem that is unique to me, about how a Kamen Rider sensibility can be a disadvantage to others instead, about how non-darker flaws also can be troublesome, how even if someone's well-meaning and did something outwardly good (the usual KR MC heroism), doesn't mean they can force what they think is good to them. That sometimes being a busybody that puts others above themselves like many KR MC isn't what they need. Of which the development was to become less of a busybody and stay away from some problems like Daiji vs Kagerou, though at the end it's a full-circle type of others speaking up about the benefit of busybodiness though. But the potential to me is wasted midway with how Ikki was pushed to the sidelines with the numerous focus Revice had to handle, just practically becoming anyone's muscle to help solving problems. I hope there'd be another MC like Ikki (I mean in their story in the series, not the personality), but handled properly unlike Revice which generally fall apart in anything mid part. - Daiji was established as someone that is insecure, and was working at Fenix, even ep. 3 teased Daiji going apeshit especially on Ikki, but he turns out to be one of the more cooperative secondary Riders, with the one that is malicious being Kagerou instead. He later was established as someone who recognizes Fenix's true nature and wants to guide Fenix to the right path, but he really didn't get much focus for a good amoung of the series, which made Revice unbalanced in establishing its characters. Later Daiji eventually got focus after Kagerou's death as a different version of himself that started out reckless, but later turned self-righteous extremist. It can make him look like a joke overall and got annoying in his rants, but at least it's a consistent turn, displaying when light becomes too hardcore, creating someone that has with us or against us mentality to do something they think is right. And after Kagerou's return, it's good that Daiji's tactical sense often got focus to solve the Igarashi's problems. - Ironically for what's seen as Kinoshita's favorite, Sakura didn't get much focus at the beginning of the series, other than ep. 3 (karate skills to free herself from custody), until ep. 11. But later she seems to get much focus, while not knowing what to do to justify her significance. I do hope that Kinoshita's dreams would be realized later, but his focus only seems to be about keeping a female character strong and relevant (as in, fighting relevant), which tbf he did of freeing Sakura from female Rider curse, and also giving a female Rider first upgrade, but many of the focus are mostly about her rivalry with Aguilera, which can get repetitive or only appealing to people like shippers (YMMV). The rivalry does contain some character arc though in Sakura accepting her weakness and limit as human which earns her Lovekov and Jeanne, and later turning the rivalry into her favor, but after the start, it's the only focus to the point that her problem with being overprotective to Lovekov happened very late later. - I'd think Yukimi's one of the better parental figures in KR franchise, she had loads (but not limitless, like being overprotective of Sakura) of wisdom, and most of the time had something to say regarding any family member's distress, and many of what she said was something relevant to the current plotline. Genta also didn't do much at the beginning, only being a bumbling (but always good) dad that gets some misfortune, but he does live up to his mystery later, of him being the host of Vail, and the rest of it being shown on Vail Legacy. - George started out as a Kamen Rider fanboy who is enigmatic in his goals, but seemingly wanted to create sUltimate Kamen Rider and monitor the Riders for his research, and he's only a fan of the surface part of KR like the fights, explosions, chaos, etc., which, due to his unpleasant drama-seeking nature, also ironically looks down on Kamen Rider values like against Hiromi. Personally, I wish that George would stay the Kamen Rider fanboy and probably had him someone (probably villainous by this) that helps both sides for his goal, and probably turning real life into Kamen Rider show (other than only Evil to Live), without any regard of what's caught in crossfire (so it can be 'realistic'). Probably if later he'd realize the error of his ways and learn the real value of Kamen Rider outside of the surface or such can happen too. But George later suddenly got turned into a calm, collected, and laid-back helper of anyone instead (with Chic as apparent explanation) after Masumi appears in this series and George is established as having daddy issues, his Kamen Rider fanboy aspects outside of designs seem to disappear. - Hiromi was planned to die in 1st episode, but later got kept in the series, and it's not impacting the series in negative way at least. Hiromi's sense of justice and a desire to be a hero, makes for a good buildup to Vail plot twist, as Hiromi's someone who turned reckless due to that, wanting to jump into the fight to help no matter what, which'd only have his body condition slowly deteriorating, and keeps so as he keeps using Demons Driver, which eventually got it revealing itself as Vail. And after his return, it's good that he grew out of his reckless ways, which is a reminder that being heroic doesn't necessarily mean reckless and always jumping into action, though he will if needed, and he's also a part of the series' late peak at ep. 42, getting through Kagerou-less Daiji through similar problems before. - At first Aguilera also explored some 'colorful' worldview, as well as unique tactics to get the job done, other than her brattiness as Deadman "leader". But later after being betrayed by Orteca, she's just wasted, mostly only longing for Giff's love (obviously at the beginning she's this, but doesn't mean it's the only thing she did), though at one point she protected Tamaki with her cruel to be kind way and teaming up with Orteca again only to display disgust to him. Probably done as a glimpse of her redemption later. After redemption, she had repaid Sakura several times, but often only acted as extra muscle. - Julio was the dumb muscle between the Deadman generals, and later posing as Tamaki to infiltrate the Igarashis via Sakura, of which later he's revealed to have a tragic backstory of being bullying victim (actually named Tamaki) with only Yosuke as his friend, until he gives in to peer pressure, and later joined Deadmans and gaining loyalty to Aguilera, and that in the present the two never had a chance to make up as Orteca torments him. After that fight though, the show seems to keep Tamaki out of obligation, not knowing what to do with him, he mostly only made a vow to help Aguilera, though later he gained some footings in making use of the smile commands he received from Yosuke and Aguilera, as a Kamen Rider goal of making others smile. - Orteca was the brains of the Deadman generals, which appeared outwardly diplomatic and was mild-mannered to solve the problems of the Deadmans including teaming up with Kagerou, and later, hoo boy, after double crossing his colleagues he's revealed as someone so depraved who'd commit any slightest crimes to get what he wanted, though he's still consistent of not committing certain crimes if not benefical (serial killing people is benefical though to him as it'd keep the Riders busy with Giftarians). He's also consistently.. done well, in creating the most hatable villain in his escalating crimes culminating in killing a child, right after his backstory that contained something tragic in father abuse. - Vail too is odne well as someone serving the most hatable villain role in his consistent villainy to ruin everyone's day, not only in him attacking others, but also in his various methods to gain the upper hand to others like trapping Genta in an alluring or destructive choice, mocking Vice's lifestyle, taunting Kagerou-less Daiji... - Akaishi had some standout moments, like his sympathy for Tasuke at ep. 40 or perhaps ep. 35 to display Giff's horror to the world, which is in line with his well-intention to keep humans alive, and for fighting wise, the ep. 33 that earned him nanomachines, son memes and his Giffdemos debut (only... debut). But other than that, he wasn't really standout other than proclaiming Giff's wishes, not unlike Aguilera post betrayal. He's established as someone running Deadman and Fenix at the same time, I'd wish we'd see how he keeps his hand busy running multiple organizations at the same time. - It's a poor choice to turn Giff into active participant, at ep. 43, for a character that is established throughout all the series, he's only active for 4 episodes. That's too little for something that important even if he got quite clear motive to use humans as energy stock and deciding to populate the world with his bloodline so the sources can be stronger. If Giff isn't active for long time, better idea is to keep him as only an ideal like some discussed, to supplement the story, fueling others' agendas. I do think that his fight being anti-climatic is expected though, as Giffard Rex was already established as Giff's match in his debut, and Daiji's in the wrong for submitting to Giff due to him being 'unstoppable'. - Oh the Ushijimas, they're established as a fake family when Weekend was formed, but Revice wasted a chance to show how a fake family lives compared to dysfunctional family (Karizakis) or mostly harmonic family (Igarashis). Already little focus for Tasuke and Hikaru, Kimiko didn't even appear frequently, with death being her only pivotal moment. Hikaru's a minor repeat of some characters before like Hiromi and Tamaki (post-redemption) too, and his focus was only gained after Kimiko's death, so the fake family member isn't complete anymore. Tasuke later is established as a ruthless leader, but does have soft spot deep down to Hikaru, that part had good exploring about the ways of leading, though that isn't family related, the clash feels like just some people on a team butting heads IMO. Quote:
Daiji and Hiromi have started BLUE BIRD, an organisation born from the ashes of the FENIX. That's clever and I think maybe it pays tribute to the Holy Wing Vistamp. Tamaki and Aguilera are working for them as atonement, while Olteca seems to have some kind of deal with George in exchanged for reduced prison time. Maybe this is George's way of trying to redeem Olteca, by showing him the love he was denied in childhood. A little sad that George is apparently the only one who'll visit him though, since Tamaki and Aguilera should at least give him the chance to reform, whenever his sentence ends.
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