[Kamen Rider Die]

Hi! My name is Kamen Rider Die, and this thread is “Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Revice”.

After a dozen or so of these Watch threads, I’ve noticed a few trends. The arcs of these projects are mostly joy – the discovery of new shows, characters, themes, stories. And y’know, some slight exhaustion as weeks turn into months, which never overshadows the delight these shows bring me. But there’s a moment in every series where I get a little melancholy. It’s not at the end of a series, typically. (I mean, BLADE, obviously, forever.) It’s… like, it’s around five or six episodes before the finale. The start of that turn into the final arc, when all the supporting cast stuff is wrapped up and the title hero prepares for a last battle against the forces of darkness. When the momentum ramps up, shifts towards the endgame, I get this sadness, instead of the excitement or anxiety I assume I’m supposed to get. It’s this inescapable pull towards the exit; unavoidable closure that signals the end of my time with these characters. It’s having to say goodbye, and it always manages to sneak up on me. I’m into this routine of living in this world with these characters, and then: we’re dotting the i’s of introspection and incident, and crossing the t’s of themes and theses. It’s all about to end, and there’s nothing I can do about it. Show’s over. Story, for all intents and purposes, is finished. Saying goodbye, even if it’s just to the routine and not to the characters – Legend Riders are more eternal these days than Eternal used to be – is hard. It’s tough to let something conclude, even if we don’t have any other option.

Which is maybe another way of saying how weirdly sad it is to write the last introduction for the last of this iteration of Kamen Rider Die Watches.

There’ll be more Kamen Rider Die Watches after this show, Legend Rider-style, so don’t worry about that. I’ve got plans up through the end of this decade, which we’ll talk about more at the end of Revice. But this was all only ever supposed to take me from Ghost, which I was watching in 2019, up to the current Rider series. It detoured into ten extra series and several additional years of work, but, we’re here. This is it. I’m watching Geats more or less currently (maybe my favorite Kamen Rider series of all time), and I’ve watched all the other Heisei and Reiwa stuff I’d meant to. Revice is the last Kamen Rider show I needed to catch up on; the last old one I can watch for the first time.

And that’s… boy, that’s really got me feeling a way. It’s the end of an era, even if it’s only been a few years of this nonsense. I’ll be all caught up on Kamen Rider in just a couple months. It seemed impossible three and half years ago, but I’m nearly there. Weird. Insane. That melancholy feeling from the end of a series is hitting me just as I start Revice, and I don’t know how that’s going to make the show work for me. Maybe I’ll treasure it more, for being the last of its kind. Maybe I’ll resent it more, for the same reason. I don’t know. I guess we’ll find out together, if you’re willing.

As always with these threads, there’re a few ground rules to go over, just to make sure everything runs smoothly and we all have a good time. Unlike in past threads, I’ve only really got two main notes:

PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISCUSSING ANY REVICE SPOILERS: I treasure being able to discover these shows with as little prior information as possible, so please don’t talk about anything from Revice beyond the episodes I’ve covered. (Also, please don’t use spoiler tags! I see the untagged version on notifications! It definitely spoils things for me!) We get through these shows at a pretty good clip, so anything from a future episode that you’re excited to discuss will be here before you know it. It’ll all be here before you know it. Even if you think these shows will last forever, you’ll eventually watch them all. I don’t like this feeling!

(Tiny subsection of the first note: I’m definitely going to mention stuff from other shows if and when it’s pertinent to the discussion of Revice, so if you’d rather not be spoiled on Kuuga through Saber, maybe come back to this thread at a later date.)

PLEASE DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT REVICE THAT YOU’D LIKE: The thing I’m going to miss about this iteration of these threads isn’t the shows. Not really. I mean, always more shows! Kamen Rider’s at 50 years and in no way seems to be slowing down. But the ability to sit down with all of you and experience these shows alongside your fandom, your jokes, your trivia, your insight, your… alongside you – that’s what I’m going to miss. If you’d do me the honor of continuing to be the best fandom anyone could hope to fall into by chiming in with your feelings about Revice, I’d be indescribably grateful.

That’s about it, other than the standard-ish disclaimer that The Whole Thread Is Going To Be Like This: overwritten, poorly edited, and stupid but heartfelt. I take these shows seriously even if I don’t take the process of talking about them seriously. Hopefully that’s something you’ll enjoy? Also, no gimmick or whatever for this thread, other than me trying to enjoy this show and keep these precious moments with all of you from escaping my tearful embrace.

We’ll be hitting Revice on the usual-for-these-threads Wednesday through Monday schedule (Tuesday is my day off), and trying to cover as much of the Revice content as has been subbed and shared online. This is my roadmap, based on Wiki air dates and some guesses at continuity placement. If anything seems like a potential disaster for a first-time viewer, or anything I’ve overlooked including, please shout at me about it!

Revice 1-3
Revice the Movie
Revice 4-13
Beyond Generations
Revice 14-16
The Mystery
HBV: Koala vs Kangaroo!
Revice 17-28
Special Event
Legacy: Kamen Rider Vail
Revice 29
DEAR GAGA
Revice 30-46
Girls Remix
Birth of Chimera
Battle Familia
Revice 47-50
Revice Anime 1-3
TTFC Revice 1
HBV: Becoming Rider No. 2!
Final Stage
Revice Forward: Live and Evil and Demons

A few things I couldn’t find, but didn’t seem crucial to the Revice experience. If anyone has these subbed or knows where I can find them, please also shout at me about it:
50th Birthday Anniversary!
Transformation Lessons
50x45 Thanksgiving Stage Show
Shocker During the Day: The Movie
TTFC Revice 2
Demons Transformation Lessons
Hiromi’s Karizaki Exercise

These aren’t subbed yet and/or out yet, but I expect they’ll be available by the time we’ve reached the post-show part of the thread:
Geats X Revice
Juuga vs Orteca

I’ll be using Izusubs for the main series, and a hodge-podge of other folks for the side material.

I think that’s all the pre-show stuff covered! Thanks for checking out this thread! Let’s BUDDY UP and watch Kamen Rider Revice!

[Kamen Rider Die]

KAMEN RIDER REVICE EPISODE 1 - “FAMILY! CONTRACT! THE DEMON WHISPERS!”



Holy crap! This guy’s got an actual entire family! That’s alive! And aware of each other’s existence! And not (currently) attempting to murder one another! And they all survived the first episode! Kamen Rider is breaking new ground for its 50th anniversary season!

Best part of the premise, by far. I like that Ikki’s part of a healthy and supportive (and funny!) family unit. There’s a real weight to his abdication of heroism at the end, since we can see how much love he’s trying to protect at home. There’re dozens of shows where a Kamen Rider is balancing his Call To Heroism alongside a job, or sibling, or the intense demands of being a full-time prickly asshole that hates hot foods. But to see a Rider who both picks up arms in defense of his family, and then puts them back down in service to that family… fresh take! I like it!

Of course, there’s also the thread of characters being afraid of what committing themselves to their ideals might mean for their family – Ikki’s mysteriously abandoned soccer dreams, Daiji’s fear at what using the Vistamp Driver might turn him into – which, alongside the overall motif of We Have To Harness The Parts Of Us We Don’t Like In Order To Be Complete People, is creating some nicely modern takes on the classic Using Evil To Fight For Good theme of the original Kamen Rider series. It’s… I like how much it’s wedding the classic tropes to a more intriguing exploration of how the real battle we all face is how to be the best versions of ourselves; modifying our humanity into something stronger, more honest, more empathetic.

I mean, we’ve still got monsters to detonate and villains to overcome, and I like this show’s antagonists so far. I mean, it doesn’t hurt that the first episode features Special Guest Star – and acclaimed Murder Grandpa of professional wrestling – MINORU SUZUKI as a cast-to-type violent lunatic that generates a rubber-suited monster to menace our heroes. The monster suits… fine? I didn’t think about them much. The animal motifs are legible, and the action is solid. I think I liked the mooks better, honestly. There’s a cleanliness to the whole white and black skeleton whatever look that I’ll always dig. I’d much rather see Revi and Vice beat the holy hell out of fifteen mooks than see them rough up one clumsy barely-articulated monster.

I love the Revi and Vice suits, though. That choice of light pink and sky blue for Revi? Light pink and black for Vice? So good! Revi’s helmet – and its vicious smile of dinosaur teeth – gets this nice combination of slightly terrifying heroism that I think works for how this show treats its powers in Episode 1: Very cool, but slightly unnerving and definitely not fully understood. Revi doesn’t look comforting, so much as a force of nature. Vice, on the other hand, gets this goofy hat that makes him look like a Kamen Rider mascot, distracting from his underlying menace (he definitely was going to eat Ikki’s mom!) in exactly the way Vice’s motor-mouthed gags and fourth wall-breaking antics do. The suits feel like physical approximations of their goals and relationship, which is exactly what I want to see in suit design.

Which is all pretty consistent with how I felt during this episode: kind of exactly how I wanted to get drawn into this world. The overarching plot stuff is present without being distracting; the new villain trio is colorful and at least one of them has my attention; the action has character to it, with an emphasis on tag-team wrestling moves between Revi and Vice; the supporting cast all feel like they’ve got lives outside our main character, and I’m excited to learn more; the mysteries are tantalizing without being frustrating; and the giant villain sarcophagus is only slightly massively yonic. It’s a strong start to the series, and if it misses the tension and cohesion of the Geats premiere, it has a much greater warmth than any premiere since Hibiki.

Gosh, I’m so glad to be watching a fun Kamen Rider show with you guys.

[DreamSword]

Okay, so a few things on my end.

In terms of your watch order, I'd recommend putting Revice Special Event and Origins Vail after episode 28.

I'll be following along with this thread in the same manor I did for the Zi-O thread: Binging a string of episodes at a time to keep up without hopefully getting too far ahead of you as to keep my perspectives as fresh as possible.

Although it might be annoying to grab without the MegaSync tool, I would recommend using GeoSubs for Revice. They're the only group that subs the Line/Text messages whenever Ikki Henshins, which, while they're usually just funny gags, are sometimes very important in terms of characterization, I've found. If you (understandably) don't wanna go through that hassle, I have no problem screenshotting the ones I find the most notable.

I dunno how much I'll actually say in terms of these early episodes, as I feel as though I'd be repeating myself up until like episode 6-ish. Not giving any real specifics, but let's just say that Revice definitely has a formula for its first handful of episodes(atleast in my eyes).

As for episode 1 in and of itself, my immediate first impression was that it definitely reminded me alot of the first episode of Ghost in terms of pacing, although not quite as rushed there. Ghost's' first episode felt like a 3-parter squished into a single episode, whereas Revice's' felt like a 2-parter squished down. I did like alot of the base concepts though.

Speaking as a Latino, I did immediately become drawn to alot of stuff Revice uses in terms of themes and aesthetic right off the bat: The Deadmans being the most obvious bit with their wonderful sense of style, but also the core values inherent in Mexican culture such as the big emphasis on family and respecting the dead. Made me wish they leaned all in on it and had the soundtrack follow suit, but ah well. Not every show can be as great at that sort of thing as Seis Manos, I suppose.

Also, I absolutely loved Vice from the second he showed up. I'd heard comparisons to Venom before seeing the show for myself, and yeah, I can see where that comparison comes from. It helps that his gags are legit funny for the most part, ontop of the show not really taking itself super seriously right now. He and the Deadmans make up my favorites currently, with everyone else just kinda being serviceable. But hey, there's plenty of time for me to grow attached to everyone else too. Especially since, ya know, Spider-Man is in this show, so I'm like, required by law to like him atleast.

Looking forward to experiencing the rest of the thread with those who decide to tune in!

[Kamen Rider Die]

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In terms of your watch order, I'd recommend putting Revice Special Event and Origins Vail after episode 28.

Interesting! I'd wanted to put the Vail stuff after the show, similar to the Rogue and Thouser specials, but maybe it's more necessary than I'd thought? I'd love to hear if this is a consensus choice!

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If you (understandably) don't wanna go through that hassle, I have no problem screenshotting the ones I find the most notable.

That would be great! Thanks!

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Also, I absolutely loved Vice from the second he showed up. I'd heard comparisons to Venom before seeing the show for myself, and yeah, I can see where that comparison comes from. It helps that his gags are legit funny for the most part, ontop of the show not really taking itself super seriously right now. He and the Deadmans make up my favorites currently, with everyone else just kinda being serviceable.

Vice is a lot of fun, yeah. I think he's maybe a little more Deadpool than Venom (he's more openly comedic than Venom), but I see where the comparison comes from. Honestly though, he slots pretty cleanly into the Ankh/Momotaros dynamic of Chaotic Helper, where he's going to be as frustrating as he is crucial to detonating monsters. More than that, though, I like how he helps illustrate how much Ikki is maybe not letting out to the people around him? Vice says everything he thinks as soon as he thinks it, while Ikki is determined to be the good son who doesn't make waves. (At a bathhouse, even!) I don't know, just my initial read.

(My favorite characters so far are the mom and the dad. I like how singularly goofy the dad is without being Hiiro's dad from Ex-Aid, and I loved the closing gag of the mom being furious that everyone came to visit her in the hospital instead of keeping the business running.)

[DreamSword]

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That would be great! Thanks!

Looks like I have my gimmick for this thread then! Here's the exchange from the first episode.

[Enchilada645]

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Interesting! I'd wanted to put the Vail stuff after the show, similar to the Rogue and Thouser specials, but maybe it's more necessary than I'd thought? I'd love to hear if this is a consensus choice!

I'll get to talking about the episode later today or early tomorrow. Depends since I now need to start binging slightly in order to follow along because yes, I am also watching along but going for GeoSubs this time because why would I use the hastily (in less than a day) put out IzuSubs when I already did that for my live watch?

But I'm mostly posting because I need to do some cleanup on that list of yours and throw in my two cents.

It'd be best to just put the first Hyper Battle DVD after The Mystery. Because I noticed where you put it and uh... no, not there, not at all, that's all I can say.

As for Legacy Vail AND Dear Gaga, yes, I am adding to this. And also telling you now, vaguely. You know that thing where Kamen Rider Blu-Ray specials try to fill in gaps from different points of time in series? Revice has none of that.

Legacy Vail is a TTFC Special featuring an original story that helps compliment and give weight to certain episodes in the latter half. I suggest 28 because I feel there's a good segue for it (I was the one who made the suggestion to Dreamsword).

Meanwhile Dear Gaga gets directly referenced in Episode 29, so setting it after there would be good. Because despite being a Blu-Ray special... it is actually not like the usual Blu-Ray specials and instead tells a wholly original story about one of the characters and is probably the best Blu-Ray exclusive content I've seen from Rider.

Anyway, that was me chiming in! See you when I watch Revice again!

[Androzani84]

Well, it’s my turn to weigh in. I agree with putting the HBV and Dear Gaga earlier, but I don’t think watching Vail during the show is at all necessary. The characters focused on are relatively minor and the special doesn’t tell us anything the show doesn’t (and what it does tell us is… I won’t go into it here).

As for thoughts on the first episode… Well I joined in late to avoid what I felt would be a fairly obnoxious part of the base (it ultimately turned out to be like, the same three people after two blockings on Twitter). And I already wrote up my thoughts elsewhere, so I’ll quote them here.

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Well, after putting it off for two months, I finally sat down to make a start on Revice.

So far, not the best start.

While monsters coming from humans is nothing new, the way it’s done here kind of misses the main draw of it. Namely, getting to know why the person came to create it. We barely know anything about the FENIX guy who tried and failed to become this show’s protagonist and we know even less about the crook the Deadmans capture. Is he alive? We’ll probably never know.

And talking of the Deadmans, I have to wonder why a group that are some weird mix of Japanese and Mexican have an English name. What’s next in their cultural mishmash? And is Vice somehow connected, or are demons living in your head a normal thing in this world?

And as for the ending, I get that the mum in the hospital is meant to show there’ll be consequences this season, but the fact she was on life support, let alone in the hospital at all, was laughable, considering all she suffered was a scratch to her arm. Was the scratch infected? Also, the episode has Ikki giving up the belt and the next episode seems like he’s going to still say no. I hope this ends soon, otherwise it’ll get annoying.

Though I do like Vice though. He seems cool.

So a bit of extra information, the mum ending up in the hospital was because the original intent was for her to die from her injuries (mirroring how the author’s father died suddenly when he was in middle school), but the producer vetoed it, so she’s recuperating in the hospital until said writer figures out how to incorporate into the plot.

And now for the part you were probably waiting for.

Ikki: It’s Ikki’s…

Vice: And Vice’s…

Both: Stamp Navi!

Ikki: And today’s stamp is this one!

Rex!

Stamping! Printing! Rolling! Going! Kamen Rider! Revi! Vice! Revice!

George: With the power of the Rex Vistamp, Kamen Rider Revice are born. Using the primordial power of the T-Rex genes, the duo can destroy any Deadman’s contract.

Vice: I finally have a body! Oh I’m gonna eat so many of this kid’s family members.

Ikki: Is it too late to go back to my soccer dreams?

George: Way too late. That demon of yours won’t go away until you’ve fulfilled the contract you made with him.

Ikki: So, that would be… to protect my family?

Vice:… If you say so. (Turns to the camera) We hope you enjoy the next instalment.

Ikki: Kill me now.

[DreadBringer]

I have written my thoughts on Revice as it was aired, and I hope I can take less time replying on this thread compared to before.... as I'd take what I wrote there and reply to corresponding sections.

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KAMEN RIDER REVICE EPISODE 1 - “FAMILY! CONTRACT! THE DEMON WHISPERS!”

Holy crap! This guy’s got an actual entire family! That’s alive! And aware of each other’s existence! And not (currently) attempting to murder one another! And they all survived the first episode! Kamen Rider is breaking new ground for its 50th anniversary season!

So this is a season that takes the place of what Fourze was planned to previously as yearly anniversary season (50th, to Fourze's 40th), I wonder (and hope) how will anniversary season that doesn't involve revisiting previous series go. For anniversary, so many 50 motifs, including the main family's surname Igarashi which means "Fifty Storms".

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Best part of the premise, by far. I like that Ikki’s part of a healthy and supportive (and funny!) family unit. There’s a real weight to his abdication of heroism at the end, since we can see how much love he’s trying to protect at home. There’re dozens of shows where a Kamen Rider is balancing his Call To Heroism alongside a job, or sibling, or the intense demands of being a full-time prickly asshole that hates hot foods. But to see a Rider who both picks up arms in defense of his family, and then puts them back down in service to that family… fresh take! I like it!

Ikki's a protagonist with the typical cheerful and bright personality (with his limit being Vice's antics), albeit he's not the type to accept Rider's powers right away and prioritize family more, but at least he returns Revice Driver to George gently. Vice possessing him is really problematic for his daily life as it'd screw him up and others (like his mom) due to no others being able to see Vice. The problem of him causing a mess seems to be solved after fully knowing Vice's nature, but personal problem likely still applies where he still can be seen as crazy for interacting with unseen beings. For Ikki's affinity with soccer, I'd actually hope for soccer-like Rider Kicks, at least he did it a bit with the debris from the Deadman's attack at Daiji's ceremony.

Vice takes the role of more morally dubious but comical monster sidekick like Momotaros. Though of course it's unknown yet if Vice will replicate Momo's success. Like Momo, Vice is loud, loves to fight and show off his strength as well, and a representation of Ikki's inner demon (like how the Taros take up Ryotaro's traits into flaws). He ironically makes the goofy Ikki look serious. Morally dubious because currently Vice fights for selfish reason, only for self-preservance, protecting Revi so he wouldn't die with Revi dying, as well as attempting to eat humans if he's let off of his leash (with him employing tasteless joke by claiming his attempt to eat Yukimi as this, a reminder that jokes can really be misused for that).

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Of course, there’s also the thread of characters being afraid of what committing themselves to their ideals might mean for their family – Ikki’s mysteriously abandoned soccer dreams, Daiji’s fear at what using the Vistamp Driver might turn him into – which, alongside the overall motif of We Have To Harness The Parts Of Us We Don’t Like In Order To Be Complete People, is creating some nicely modern takes on the classic Using Evil To Fight For Good theme of the original Kamen Rider series. It’s… I like how much it’s wedding the classic tropes to a more intriguing exploration of how the real battle we all face is how to be the best versions of ourselves; modifying our humanity into something stronger, more honest, more empathetic.

The appropriately named Daiji (with 二 kanji as the second son), seems to have prideful trait as he denies the Igarashis being his family when they wave a flag for him. Uhh.. that'd be actually a show of insolence and ungratefulness from a child (and certain folklore have these kind of child being turned into stone for this). Daiji being paralyzed with fear due to Hiromi accidentally unleashing a monster seems to set up his character arc. I wonder if he's the one that's going to be secondary Rider.

Not much seen about Sakura yet, other than establishing her as an action girl, using her karate skills to defend against Giff Juniors. Not to talk down, but humans kicking ass against mooks have been common too, as well, like Taiga battling Bugster Virus in Ex-Aid. She seems to take up Daiji more compared to Ikki, more on serious side like talking down her father for being a weirdo. Still I'd like the series to prove her excellence in mind (as what the series tell). Other than that, her actress is the one to have an appropriate name instead of the character, with her name being Ayaka Imoto, and her character is the little sister.

Yukimi's the one that values their bathhouse the most, reprimanding Ikki for dealing with Vice and the others to neglect the bathhouse. In contrast to Sakura, Yukimi's in complete danger from Deadman's attack. Genta is shaping up to be the comic relief sidekick the series had by focusing on making viral videos. Otherwise, it's an anomaly for Rider series to have the protagonist have a complete set of family, but more than that, regularly lives with them.

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I mean, we’ve still got monsters to detonate and villains to overcome, and I like this show’s antagonists so far. I mean, it doesn’t hurt that the first episode features Special Guest Star – and acclaimed Murder Grandpa of professional wrestling – MINORU SUZUKI as a cast-to-type violent lunatic that generates a rubber-suited monster to menace our heroes. The monster suits… fine? I didn’t think about them much. The animal motifs are legible, and the action is solid. I think I liked the mooks better, honestly. There’s a cleanliness to the whole white and black skeleton whatever look that I’ll always dig. I’d much rather see Revi and Vice beat the holy hell out of fifteen mooks than see them rough up one clumsy barely-articulated monster.

The series seems to be the lighthearted and spiritual type (probably a nod for Fourze before too), though the spiritual aspect seems to be at surface, a dark type that it involves a demon worship cult Deadman, contrasting to Ghost's spiritual themes that are portrayed in positive light such as "Heroic Spirits" (albeit it glorifies the likes of Nobunaga and Edison too much). Keep the lighthearted part of the main cast, but I'd like for them to explore more of the world there, like how it ends up centering on a devil cult, which probably can add up bleak elements in the world. Currently the cult members are acting like concert audiences... even despite Julio telling them off to not "pretending to be happy" *cheers louder*. The Deadman's opposition Fenix being scientific already contrasts the Deadman, which should be ok for the darkness to contrast the lighthearted-ness opposite faction.

Aguilera is much more ecstatic and playful than I thought, she's not the type to be calm, distant, and composed like previous major female villains such as Baruba from Kuuga (Aguilera's outfit reminds me of hers somewhat) or Uca Worm from Kabuto.

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I love the Revi and Vice suits, though. That choice of light pink and sky blue for Revi? Light pink and black for Vice? So good! Revi’s helmet – and its vicious smile of dinosaur teeth – gets this nice combination of slightly terrifying heroism that I think works for how this show treats its powers in Episode 1: Very cool, but slightly unnerving and definitely not fully understood. Revi doesn’t look comforting, so much as a force of nature. Vice, on the other hand, gets this goofy hat that makes him look like a Kamen Rider mascot, distracting from his underlying menace (he definitely was going to eat Ikki’s mom!) in exactly the way Vice’s motor-mouthed gags and fourth wall-breaking antics do. The suits feel like physical approximations of their goals and relationship, which is exactly what I want to see in suit design.

Revice's chat motif for his henshin worked out better than I thought, the words are that spicy and varied to have the chat continue for long time. I'd want for the chat to have significance of the theme/gimmick too though like Ex-Aid's character select to portray gaming theme. As above, I liked the part where Revice uses nearby debris as projectile. And yet another one of the base main Rider's power being legs that can jump high, like OOO's Batta legs (ironically, Tyra is part of OOO's final form) and Zero One's Rising Hopper. I'd wish the finisher would act like actual stamp instead of projection though, like flattening the opponent.

[DreamSword]

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And talking of the Deadmans, I have to wonder why a group that are some weird mix of Japanese and Mexican have an English name.

For those curious, the Deadmans get their entire thing from the Day of the Dead. A Mexican holiday that honors friends and family who've passed away.

[Kamen Rider Die]

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But I'm mostly posting because I need to do some cleanup on that list of yours and throw in my two cents.

Good to know! Now that we've got some consensus here, I'll rearrange some stuff in that first post. Thanks for the feedback!

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So a bit of extra information, the mum ending up in the hospital was because the original intent was for her to die from her injuries (mirroring how the author?s father died suddenly when he was in middle school), but the producer vetoed it, so she?s recuperating in the hospital until said writer figures out how to incorporate into the plot.

Good! Her getting killed would've been such a pointless bummer, and probably would've soured me on most of the episode. It is way better if Ikki's motivated by familial obligation and the desire for his relatives to succeed than if he's just All Moms Are Deaded into being a Kamen Rider. No thanks to all of that!

And thanks for the funny Stamp short!

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So this is a season that takes the place of what Fourze was planned to previously as yearly anniversary season (50th, to Fourze's 40th), I wonder (and hope) how will anniversary season that doesn't involve revisiting previous series go. For anniversary, so many 50 motifs, including the main family's surname Igarashi which means "Fifty Storms".

I mean, I'm far more interested in an anniversary season that looks at how Kamen Rider shows have changed and grown over the last fifty years, than I am at another cavalcade of guest stars and callbacks. (That part of the franchise is so ever-present as to be a parallel series to whatever the year's show is.) I like that they went a different way with it?

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For those curious, the Deadmans get their entire thing from the Day of the Dead. A Mexican holiday that honors friends and family who've passed away.

Possibly, but it's more likely that they're a hidden reference to wrestling faction LIJ, a frequent rival to special guest star Minoru Suzuki's own Suzuki-gun faction.