[Paladin]

Shoma receives a shocking proposal.

[Zolda]

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Nyelv is offering Shouma the position of the head of the Stomach family. My hypothesis in my post in episode 44 thread here was quite correct. Nyelv is seemingly trying to psychologically manipulate Shouma by drilling in his mind the worst-case scenario (Bocca's endgame about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) that would definitely happen if Shouma is not taking an immediate action and accept his offer. He's claiming that he loves Stomach family and only wants to take the Stomach corporation back from Bocca/Liselle. He's trying to gain Shouma's trust by returning 2 big boxes of Hito Pressed humans, though I still see a high probability (>55% chance) that he's just using Shouma as a pawn to fight Bocca, and he'll still betray Shouma in the end. Of course, as shown in the preview section, Shouma/KR Gavv will still be overpowered by Bocca in episode 46, so the berserker form route is still open, not to mention that Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari is still absent in episode 45. Perhaps it's the summer film-exclusive Hexenheim form, or yet another new (kitbash) form? Don't know!

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In the opening monologue @ 00:01, Shouma says that he decided not to tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that he's Michiru's son because he didn't want Masaru to be sadder. What I hear is: "The writers didn't want me to tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that I'm Michiru's son because they still needed to drag the-hidden-familial-connection-between-me-and-Mr. Hidamari subplot until episode 46 or 47, or even 48. They would've needed to delay the resolution of the-hidden-familial-connection-between-me-and-Mr. Hidamari subplot to coincide with another crucial plot point that would've ended with me ultimately deciding to live in the human world."

In the scene @ 00:23, Nyelv visits Shouma at Sachika's shop by following an RG that he encountered in a very very very convenient coincidence in episode 44 @ 20:22. He's offering Shouma the position of the head of the Stomach family. Nyelv's claiming that he loves Stomach family and only wants to take the Stomach corporation back from Bocca/Liselle. He says that he just wants the Stomach family to be at the top of the Granute society. He says that their father (Bouche) lacked ambition, and he was a bit worried about Lango Mango's ability, so he decided to test Shouma. My hypothesis in my post in episode 44 thread here was quite correct, since @ 06:39 he's also seemingly trying to psychologically manipulate Shouma by drilling in his mind the worst-case scenario (Bocca's endgame about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) that would definitely happen if Shouma is not taking an immediate action and accept his offer. He says to Shouma that if Shouma manages to defeat Bocca, then Shouma would become the president and would be able to stop Bocca's endgame about invading the human world. To sweeten the deal, he even tells Shouma that he's planning to seal the so-called Door Room to stop the interworld travel between the Granute world and the human world, effectively stopping Stomach corporation's entire Dark Snacks operations once and for all. To convince Shouma that he's serious about his offer, he even willingly accepts Shouma's request to return all the Hito Pressed humans at Stomach corporation. Just when he finishes talking to Shouma, one of Lango Mango's agents is shown spying on their deal. Why is one of Lango Mango's agents only able to successfully spy on Shouma now? Why do they almost always fail during crucial moments in previous episodes? The answer is clear: Plot convenience, as always in this atrocious story. It happens simply because the writers needed Lango Mango to make a crucial move in the next 2 or 3 episodes that advances the plot, so, because they needed to drag the plot in previous episodes, they needed to make Lango Mango and his agents to perform as stupid and incompetent as possible. Cringe! *facepalm

In the scene @ 05:36, Shouma suspects that Nyelv was the one who let him escape to the human world at the beginning of episode 1, and Nyelv confirms it. It's revealed in a flashback scene that right after Michiru (Shouma's mom) was killed by Glotta by breaking her Hito Press, Shouma was confined in his/his mom's room, so his escape from Stomach's factory (during the very first 1 minute of episode 1, for example @ 00.10) didn't happen right after he was immediately subdued by 2 of Lango Mango's agents (episode 4 @ 16:14). The timeline is as follows:
- Shouma and his mom were captured by 2 of Lango Mango's agents (episode 4 @ 14:27-15:31).
Gavv 04 @ 14:27-15:31

- Shouma's mom was successfully Hito Pressed by an unknown/unseen Granute (probably one of the factory workers, not one of the Stomach siblings), while Shouma was failed to be Hito Pressed by a 2nd unknown/unseen Granute (probably another factory worker) due to his body possessing Granute DNA (episode 4 @ 15:31-16:14).
Gavv 04 @ 15:31-16:14

- Shouma was then immediately subdued by 2 of Lango Mango's agents while seeing his mom's Hito Press broken by Glotta, effectively killing her (episode 4 @ 16:14-16:52).
Gavv 04 @ 16:14-16:52

- Shouma was still subdued by 2 of Lango Mango's agents and then taken away from the factory (episode 4 @ 16:52-16:58).
Gavv 04 @ 16:52-16:58

- Shouma was then restrained to a chair with a chain and confined in his/his mom's room (episode 45 @ 05:48-05:55).
Gavv 45 @ 05:48-05:55

- Someone (very likely one of Nyelv's agents) opened the door of Shouma/his mom's room to allow him to escape (episode 45 @ 05:55-06:22).
Gavv 45 @ 05:55-06:22

- Shouma was finally able to escape Stomach's factory into the human world by accessing the so-called Door Room (episode 1 @ 00:00-00:52).
Gavv 01 @ 00:00-00:52


Buuuuuuuuuutttttttttt, despite this attempt at closing the severe, plot-breaking logical anomaly (that I elaborated in my 3rd post in episode 42 thread here), there are still several unanswered logical anomalies, such as:
- The ones who pursued Shouma when he escaped Stomach's factory into the human world by accessing the so-called Door Room in episode 1 @ 00:00-00:52 were Lango Mango's agents, who are known to be much stronger and faster than normal/low class Granutes. Soooooooooo, how the heck was Shouma, a mere human-Granute hybrid whose untransformed-self is a pathetic weakling loser, able to outrun and outmaneuver 2(!) of Lango Mango's agents which allowed him to escape from Stomach's factory at the very beginning of episode 1? How the heck could they utterly fail to capture Shouma when he was allowed to escape from the Stomach mansion/factory by one of Nyelv's agents, but were able to easily capture him several moments earlier (episode 4 @ 16:14-16:58)? Lango Mango and his agents didn't know about Nyelv's plan, so it should've been impossible for them to let Shouma escape from Stomach's factory.
Gavv 01 @ 00:05

Gavv 01 @ 00:10

Gavv 01 @ 00:46

Gavv 01 @ 00:48

- I've just realized that there's another logical anomaly regarding the so-called Door Room. Nyelv said during his very strange, very obvious infodump monologue in episode 44 @ 15:15 that it's still unclear who made and how the so-called Door Room works. So, if Stomach corporation still doesn't even know how the so-called Door Room works, then how the heck have they been able to control it with their family crest/company logo and freely open the interworld portal? If they still don't even know how it works, then how the heck have they been able to use it to connect the Stomach mansion with various strategic locations in the human world such as Kenzou's crummy office/lab, various Hito Press collection centers, and Liselle/Jeebh's new villa? If they still don't know how it works, then how the heck could they authorize new users such as Bocca and Liselle? If they still don't even know what it is and how it works, then how the heck have they been able to control it?
Gavv 44 @ 15:15

- Since Nyelv confirms Shouma's suspicion @ 05:36 that he was the one who let him escape to the human world at the beginning of episode 1, does this imply that he was also the one who allowed Komel to return to the Granute world and arrive at Lage 9's house in episode 19 @ 17:13 like I elaborated in my post in episode 25 thread here? If so, then why the heck didn't Glotta ever become suspicious of him (or Lango Mango) for allowing Komel to escape from the human world into the Granute world? Or perhaps she was made by the writers to be just apathetic of everything that happened around her?
- Does it mean that he was also the Stomach's insider who tipped Lage 9 about the connection between the name Dark Snacks with Stomach corporation, like I've been asking since my 2nd post in episode 19 thread here? That could likely be the case, since it's the easiest route.

In the scene @ 03:17, Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu who has just finished a job encounters Hanto in a very very very convenient coincidence, as usual in this atrocious story. They then visit Lage 9 who is at Kenzou's crummy office/lab testing Dente-made neutralizer/antidote for Stomach's gaseous/liquid copy of his awfully plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin. Although Sachika says that she's not surprised to see Lage 9 as a Granute without wearing his human disguise at all, she has long suspected that Lage 9 had been Hito Pressing humans too. So naturally, Lage 9 is feeling guilty and apologizes to Sachika, even though it's clear that he did what he did as a ploy to gain Stomach's trust. Sachika is also blaming herself for being shallow and for wishing happiness on Lage 9 some time ago.

In the scene @ 12:55, Shouma is sitting at a public space and wishing that he can stay in the human world. Exactly 1 minute later, as usual in this atrocious story, in a very very very convenient coincidence, he encounters Liselle who is visiting the crab Granute, a Stomach part-timer who poses as a fortune teller. Shouma calls Lage 9 and both fight the crab Granute. For the very first time in a very very very long time I can't even remember, this series shows a fight scene at an open, public place that features many civilians. Perhaps the producers of this series read several of my weekly posts about how visually sterile, hollow, and empty the fight scenes in this series have been due to the almost total lack of civilians, haha. See? That's how you do a natural-looking scene! Anyway, Liselle decides to play along by casually destroying several buildings and injure several civilians. The best part of this scene is KR Gavv Caking form, as usual, so perhaps the producers of this series did read my weekly posts? Haha.

In the scene @ 19:25, Shouma and the others are having a feast. Sachika says that she wants to help Lage 9 since he has regretted his crimes as a Stomach part-timer and wants to start over, and as usual, she ends her speech with the words hApPy or hApPiNeSs. I think this story needs to stop spouting the words hApPy or hApPiNeSs way too much, since the KR series that did it tend to be either very very very bad (KR Revice) or atrocious (KR (God forbid) Geats, and now also including KR (God forbid) Gavv). Heck, even KR Fourze, a series whose main and weekly guest characters are 90-95% high schoolers almost never spouted such trite words as hApPy or hApPiNeSs. Even Gentaro Kisaragi, an ultra-high-energy, free-spirited, regent-haired high schooler wasn't naively idealistic like Sachika and the other protagonists from KR (God forbid) Gavv are. Like my wisecracker grandpa once remarked: "Happiness is like a cat. If you chase it, it's getting further away from you. The most unhappy people are those who often talk about and chase happiness."

In the scene @ 21:12, Shouma receives the initial sign of Nyelv's commitment. Nyelv's trying to gain Shouma's trust by keeping his promise and returning 2 big boxes of Hito Pressed humans, though I still see a high probability (>55% chance) that he's just using Shouma as a pawn to fight Bocca, and he'll still betray Shouma in the end. Of course, as shown in the preview section, Shouma/KR Gavv will still be overpowered by Bocca in episode 46, so the berserker form route is still open, not to mention that Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari is still absent in episode 45. Perhaps it's the summer film-exclusive Hexenheim form, or yet another new (kitbash) form? Don't know! So, by @ 21:36, the deal between Nyelv and Shouma is done, and since Nyelv has kept his end of the bargain, Shouma decides to return to the Granute world with him. And as they departs, Lango Mango is looking at them from afar @ 22:42, likely waiting to see Nyelv's scheme to unfold, and very likely also waiting for the perfect time to strike Nyelv and or Bocca.

Oh, and Jeebh is totally absent again in this episode, as I've already expected, haha. He's overstayed his welcome for way way waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too long. Like I said in my post in episode 44 thread here last week:
"If my 50-episode story has only 6 remaining episodes yet 5 major villains are still alive/undefeated, then it means I've royally screwed up, haha."

Next week:

Shouma is wearing Nyelv's attire as Bocca's right-hand man, quite literally. Doesn't Bocca even notice that he's a completely different guy? I've always asked: why the heck has Nyelv been wearing his human disguise in the Granute world almost the entire time? Why the heck hasn't he just shown his true Granute form in the Granute world? The answer is likely: Plot convenience, as always in this atrocious story. Shouma, being a human-Granute hybrid, doesn't have a Granute form, so he needs to cosplay as Nyelv (by copying Nyelv's whole human attire) in order to try to fool Bocca and then strikes him once he lets his guard down. If this is indeed Nyelv's plan to take down Bocca, then I was 1000000000000000% totally wrong about him, because it means that Nyelv is as shallow and stupid as Lango Mango is.

Lango Mango says in the preview section @ 22:55 that he wants to see what Nyelv can do, so yeah, it seems like he's still in the wait-and-see mode.

Shouma/KR Gavv is trying to attack Bocca as KR Gavv Gochipod form, and like I said above, even in his final form, he's still severely overpowered by Bocca, so the berserker form route is still open, or at least a final episode-exclusive extra final form similar to KR Zero-One Realizing Hopper, KR Almighty Saber, and KR Gotchard Ultima Steamhopper form.

Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu is giving a speech and scolding Shouma in the preview section @ 23:01 for not trying to share his burden with the other protagonists. Her speech could likely motivate him to return to the human world and ultimately tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that he's Michiru's son which would finally resolve the-hidden-familial-connection-between-Shouma-and-Masaru subplot. The hApPiNeSs that would very likely result from Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari accepting Shouma for who he really is could be the catalyst that would grant Shouma/KR Gavv the final episode-exclusive extra final form that I mentioned above.

Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee...

[DH21965]

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Originally Posted by Zolda

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Original, unedited post:

Nyelv is offering Shouma the position of the head of the Stomach family. My hypothesis in my post in episode 44 thread here was quite correct. Nyelv is seemingly trying to psychologically manipulate Shouma by drilling in his mind the worst-case scenario (Bocca's endgame about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) that would definitely happen if Shouma is not taking an immediate action and accept his offer. He's claiming that he loves Stomach family and only wants to take the Stomach corporation back from Bocca/Liselle. He's trying to gain Shouma's trust by returning 2 big boxes of Hito Pressed humans, though I still see a high probability (>55% chance) that he's just using Shouma as a pawn to fight Bocca, and he'll still betray Shouma in the end. Of course, as shown in the preview section, Shouma/KR Gavv will still be overpowered by Bocca in episode 46, so the berserker form route is still open, not to mention that Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari is still absent in episode 45. Perhaps it's the summer film-exclusive Hexenheim form, or yet another new (kitbash) form? Don't know!

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Elaborated, edited post:

In the opening monologue @ 00:01, Shouma says that he decided not to tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that he's Michiru's son because he didn't want Masaru to be sadder. What I hear is: "The writers didn't want me to tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that I'm Michiru's son because they still needed to drag the-hidden-familial-connection-between-me-and-Mr. Hidamari subplot until episode 46 or 47, or even 48. They would've needed to delay the resolution of the-hidden-familial-connection-between-me-and-Mr. Hidamari subplot to coincide with another crucial plot point that would've ended with me ultimately deciding to live in the human world."

In the scene @ 00:23, Nyelv visits Shouma at Sachika's shop by following an RG that he encountered in a very very very convenient coincidence in episode 44 @ 20:22. He's offering Shouma the position of the head of the Stomach family. Nyelv's claiming that he loves Stomach family and only wants to take the Stomach corporation back from Bocca/Liselle. He says that he just wants the Stomach family to be at the top of the Granute society. He says that their father (Bouche) lacked ambition, and he was a bit worried about Lango Mango's ability, so he decided to test Shouma. My hypothesis in my post in episode 44 thread here was quite correct, since @ 06:39 he's also seemingly trying to psychologically manipulate Shouma by drilling in his mind the worst-case scenario (Bocca's endgame about transforming the entire human world into a planet-scale Hito Press farm) that would definitely happen if Shouma is not taking an immediate action and accept his offer. He says to Shouma that if Shouma manages to defeat Bocca, then Shouma would become the president and would be able to stop Bocca's endgame about invading the human world. To sweeten the deal, he even tells Shouma that he's planning to seal the so-called Door Room to stop the interworld travel between the Granute world and the human world, effectively stopping Stomach corporation's entire Dark Snacks operations once and for all. To convince Shouma that he's serious about his offer, he even willingly accepts Shouma's request to return all the Hito Pressed humans at Stomach corporation. Just when he finishes talking to Shouma, one of Lango Mango's agents is shown spying on their deal. Why is one of Lango Mango's agents only able to successfully spy on Shouma now? Why do they almost always fail during crucial moments in previous episodes? The answer is clear: Plot convenience, as always in this atrocious story. It happens simply because the writers needed Lango Mango to make a crucial move in the next 2 or 3 episodes that advances the plot, so, because they needed to drag the plot in previous episodes, they needed to make Lango Mango and his agents to perform as stupid and incompetent as possible. Cringe! *facepalm

In the scene @ 03:17, Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu who has just finished a job encounters Hanto in a very very very convenient coincidence, as usual in this atrocious story. They then visit Lage 9 who is at Kenzou's crummy office/lab testing Dente-made neutralizer/antidote for Stomach's gaseous/liquid copy of his awfully plot-convenient hApPiNeSs neurotoxin. Although Sachika says that she's not surprised to see Lage 9 as a Granute without wearing his human disguise at all, she has long suspected that Lage 9 had been Hito Pressing humans too. So naturally, Lage 9 is feeling guilty and apologizes to Sachika, even though it's clear that he did what he did as a ploy to gain Stomach's trust. Sachika is also blaming herself for being shallow and for wishing happiness on Lage 9 some time ago.

In the scene @ 12:55, Shouma is sitting at a public space and wishing that he can stay in the human world. Exactly 1 minute later, as usual in this atrocious story, in a very very very convenient coincidence, he encounters Liselle who is visiting the crab Granute, a Stomach part-timer who poses as a fortune teller. Shouma calls Lage 9 and both fight the crab Granute. For the very first time in a very very very long time I can't even remember, this series shows a fight scene at an open, public place that features many civilians. Perhaps the producers of this series read several of my weekly posts about how visually sterile, hollow, and empty the fight scenes in this series have been due to the almost total lack of civilians, haha. See? That's how you do a natural-looking scene! Anyway, Liselle decides to play along by casually destroying several buildings and injure several civilians. The best part of this scene is KR Gavv Caking form, as usual, so perhaps the producers of this series did read my weekly posts? Haha.

In the scene @ 19:25, Shouma and the others are having a feast. Sachika says that she wants to help Lage 9 since he has regretted his crimes as a Stomach part-timer and wants to start over, and as usual, she ends her speech with the words hApPy or hApPiNeSs. I think this story needs to stop spouting the words hApPy or hApPiNeSs way too much, since the KR series that did it tend to be either very very very bad (KR Revice) or atrocious (KR (God forbid) Geats, and now also including KR (God forbid) Gavv). Heck, even KR Fourze, a series whose main and weekly guest characters are 90-95% high schoolers almost never spouted such trite words as hApPy or hApPiNeSs. Even Gentaro Kisaragi, an ultra-high-energy, free-spirited, regent-haired high schooler wasn't naively idealistic like Sachika and the other protagonists from KR (God forbid) Gavv are. Like my wisecracker grandpa once remarked: "Happiness is like a cat. If you chase it, it's getting further away from you. The most unhappy people are those who often talk about and chase happiness."

In the scene @ 21:12, Shouma receives the initial sign of Nyelv's commitment. Nyelv's trying to gain Shouma's trust by keeping his promise and returning 2 big boxes of Hito Pressed humans, though I still see a high probability (>55% chance) that he's just using Shouma as a pawn to fight Bocca, and he'll still betray Shouma in the end. Of course, as shown in the preview section, Shouma/KR Gavv will still be overpowered by Bocca in episode 46, so the berserker form route is still open, not to mention that Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari is still absent in episode 45. Perhaps it's the summer film-exclusive Hexenheim form, or yet another new (kitbash) form? Don't know! So, by @ 21:36, the deal between Nyelv and Shouma is done, and since Nyelv has kept his end of the bargain, Shouma decides to return to the Granute world with him. And as they departs, Lango Mango is looking at them from afar @ 22:42, likely waiting to see Nyelv's scheme to unfold, and very likely also waiting for the perfect time to strike Nyelv and or Bocca.

Oh, and Jeebh is totally absent again in this episode, as I've already expected, haha. He's overstayed his welcome for way way waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy too long. Like I said in my post in episode 44 thread here last week:
"If my 50-episode story has only 6 remaining episodes yet 5 major villains are still alive/undefeated, then it means I've royally screwed up, haha."

Next week:

Shouma is wearing Nyelv's attire as Bocca's right-hand man, quite literally. Doesn't Bocca even notice that he's a completely different guy? I've always asked: why the heck has Nyelv been wearing his human disguise in the Granute world almost the entire time? Why the heck hasn't he just shown his true Granute form in the Granute world? The answer is likely: Plot convenience, as always in this atrocious story. Shouma, being a human-Granute hybrid, doesn't have a Granute form, so he needs to cosplay as Nyelv (by copying Nyelv's whole human attire) in order to try to fool Bocca and then strikes him once he lets his guard down. If this is indeed Nyelv's plan to take down Bocca, then I was 1000000000000000% totally wrong about him, because it means that Nyelv is as shallow and stupid as Lango Mango is.

Lango Mango says in the preview section @ 22:55 that he wants to see what Nyelv can do, so yeah, it seems like he's still in the wait-and-see mode.

Shouma/KR Gavv is trying to attack Bocca as KR Gavv Gochipod form, and like I said above, even in his final form, he's still severely overpowered by Bocca, so the berserker form route is still open, or at least a final episode-exclusive extra final form similar to KR Zero-One Realizing Hopper, KR Almighty Saber, and KR Gotchard Ultima Steamhopper form.

Sachika the heroine-with-virtually-no-backstory-except-2-mundane-facts-that-she-has-a-filthy-rich-grandma-and-that-she-lives-in-the-same-apartment-complex-as-Ritsu is giving a speech and scolding Shouma in the preview section @ 23:01 for not trying to share his burden with the other protagonists. Her speech could likely motivate him to return to the human world and ultimately tell Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari that he's Michiru's son which would finally resolve the-hidden-familial-connection-between-Shouma-and-Masaru subplot. The hApPiNeSs that would very likely result from Masaru/candy store owner guy/Mr. Hidamari accepting Shouma for who he really is could be the catalyst that would grant Shouma/KR Gavv the final episode-exclusive extra final form that I mentioned above.

Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee...

Your Original unedited posts are perfect.
The rest no one?s gonna read this WALL OF TEXT, why not just keep it at a summary? Your simple summary is Perfectly Fine

[Mesnick]

Well, happiness has always been one of the main themes of the show, so it's no surprise that it comes up especially brightly towards the end. Nyelv offers Shouma a deal: to lead Stomatch Inc., and eventually the entire Granute society, and thus keep people safe. Shouma hesitates, but still decides to sacrifice his happiness for te sake of humanity's happiness. But is it justified? Sachika also learns the full story of Lakia and is confronted with conflicts in both his own beliefs and his relationship with Vram. Fortunately, actions speak louder than words and Lakia saving people convinces Sachika to continue supporting him. It is also funny that Hanto acts as Granute's protector here. Overall, I'd say this subplot works well thematically and emotionally, shading Shouma's situation. But I still wish it had happened sooner. Because it means that even after learning about the riders and Granute, Sachika is still left out in the cold. Shouma is also convinced by the action when it turns out that Granute is still kidnapping people in the middle of a happy summer day. To be honest, that red tent looked very suspicious and Liesel's appearance was unnecessary. However, her participation makes a simple fight much more destructive and convinces Shouma to accept his brother's offer. Liesel should also be commended for not taking the Hito-Press when she had the chance. However, this is more a consequence of her frivolous attitude than any kind of fair play. And avoiding unpleasant conversations is a flaw of Shouma's that he has never overcome. In the case of Nyelv, he is clearly not trustworthy. Yes, he returned the kidnapped people, but he did it as discreetly as possible so as not to attract the attention of either Bocca or the other riders. It is also obvious that Nyelv is planning to separate Shouma from his friends. Right now, it seems to me that his plan is as simple as possible: to pit Bocca and Gavv against each other, and then become the winner's right hand. But he doesn't know that Lango is still alive and is also going to interfere.
The next episode will feature a lot of Granute and Shouma in black. I'm catching Kiva's vibe. Let's see where this leads, but I feel like our main character is in for some tough times.
P.S. Also used here is a yellow repaint of the Granute Crab costume. Apparently, the costume designers are already hard at work on the kaijin for Zeztz.

[Zolda]

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH21965

Your Original unedited posts are perfect.
The rest no one?s gonna read this WALL OF TEXT, why not just keep it at a summary? Your simple summary is Perfectly Fine

Summary? It's not a summary. It's just one point, out of several points.

You said that no one's gonna read the rest? Yes, you're right, sir! I once held a poll to see how many visitors on this forum (members and non-members) actually ready long posts. You know the result that I got? Perfect zero, sir. Yep, the result was clear: 0% of all the visitors on this forum (be it members or non-members) read long posts.

If long texts offend you, then I'm afraid that the problem lies within the man you see in the mirror, sir.

[DH21965]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zolda

Summary? It's not a summary. It's just one point, out of several points.

You said that no one's gonna read the rest? Yes, you're right, sir! I once held a poll to see how many visitors on this forum (members and non-members) actually ready long posts. You know the result that I got? Perfect zero, sir. Yep, the result was clear: 0% of all the visitors on this forum (be it members or non-members) read long posts.

If long texts offend you, then I'm afraid that the problem lies within the man you see in the mirror, sir.

LOL this made me chuckle a bit, but no biblical length texts just means you don?t like to summarize properly, and are in love with your own writing

[Fish Sandwich]

In all the time I've spent thinking about this show over the last year, I was never really able to imagine what it might look like to actually wrap up the story of Kamen Rider Gavv?

Part of it is no doubt that I simply don't want to imagine a world where I'm no longer looking forward to a new episode every week -- even now, as that world rapidly approaches regardless -- but it isn't *only* that. It's also the question of what kind of resolution would feel properly satisfying. And answering that one larger question, I think, is a matter of answering many smaller questions, beginning with this one -- what sort of final dilemma should the protagonist face? It probably needs to be some obstacle greater than any before it, and it likewise ought to be a clear and logical consequence of not merely the plot leading to that point, but the themes as well.

Maybe that's all obvious stuff in general, but as it applies to Gavv? The broader plot has never really been structured in a way that makes the old standby of "blow up the most important bad guy" seem like the obvious endpoint, for starters. The show is hardly hurting for options right now when it comes to potential final bosses, but the lack of clarity on that front this late in the game probably says something important in of itself? There'll be fights, for sure, because it's that kind of show, but the fighting itself can't be the entire point. Shouma needs to be challenged in some other way, too, which is why I'm very much into the conflict this episode presents him with. One of the very first things I ever praised Gavv for was the weight it made me feel behind the simple words "dou suru?", so to have Shouma turn those words on himself here, to weigh the choice Nyelv gives him, is super fascinating to me. Without knowledge of the remaining episodes, I don't know yet how far the consequences of this decision will actually carry us, but as the answer to that first small question of the end, it's about perfect? The show is all about Shouma growing strong through his desire to protect a world that comes to mean so much to him, and then you tempt him with the prospect of keeping that world safe forever, at the expense of all the connections he's made there being severed forever too. He begins the story isolated, discovers the joy of being supported by others and supporting them in turn, only to end the story trying to honor those lessons by isolating himself all over again. It's completely understandable, touching, kind of sad, and quite probably foolishly shortsighted, which means it's also sure to be rather dramatic, on top of everything else.

A lot of that is still off in the future though, so as far as things I can say concretely right now, I also don't want to neglect mentioning how much I loved the other main characters in this one. Koumura finally gets to cash that check Mouri helped to start setting up nearly 20 episodes ago with Lakia and Sachika, and it's great development for both of them. I loved how it explored Lakia's guilt in a way where he isn't beating himself up the way he might've before, and I loved how Sachika is again critical of her own worldview in a way that ironically just ends up further proving what a wonderful human being she is. (You know Nyelv is smart because he notices as much merely from glimpsing Shouma's living arrangements.) I also loved how, perhaps specifically because Shouma is occupied elsewhere, Hanto gets to be the one trying his best to support both his friends as they're going through all that, and doing a pretty darn good job, all things considered? Lakia even ended up liking those rocks, by the look of it! What a great guy! But like, they're all great! Which just makes it that much easier to understand why Shouma would go to the lengths he decides to by the end, making an already strong episode that much stronger.

[DreadBringer]

Journey to the Granute World.

Although Nyelv appears to genuinely ally himself with Shoma—unlike Glion from Gotchard—it's evident that Nyelv still has ulterior motives and desires to rule over the Granute World. This isn't a redemption, it's an enemy mine situation fueled by mutual needs, like Saeko in W, Kuroto in Ex-Aid, Evolt in Build V-Cinema, or Daichi in Geats. Nyelv communicates pragmatically with Shoma, focusing his capabilities, Michiru's death, and his evolution from those events.

While people often think about grudge situations (Michiru's death), Shoma may refuse to work with Nyelv at first due to how it's probably about assisting Stomach Inc.'s crimes, until Nyelv reveals that their collaboration against Bocca could potentially safeguard the human world, giving back Stomach Inc. to Stomach family's hands and using its abilities to seal the door between the human and Granute worlds, of which Shoma agrees after the victims are returned.

By this logic, it seems that Shoma might be willing to leave the Granute World’s fate in the hands of the Stomach family if it means ensuring the safety of the human world. Now even Gavv also leaves me wanting more, as expressed earlier, I wanted to see more exploration of the Granute World. Unfortunately, it's done this late, and they likely will only focus on defeating Bocca, not touching upon other potentials like protecting the Granutes from harm and improving their world to promote happiness for all living beings.

While Sachika would help anyone, including strangers, as per wanting to make everyone happy, though people'd support this (hatred to baddies), I noticed that at times she can be judgmental towards those she deems bad, like the Granute part-timers, and that generally, the people she and Shoma help are the likable ones. So turns out that she still has flaws in her perspective that Shoma didn't, and what Hanto also got over with, acknowledging herself as shallow, having some black and white aspects before this.

Now that Sachika knows Rakia’s past as a human abductor and potential killer, her flaws surface. Although she isn’t self-righteous enough to view Rakia as beneath her or other good people, this still made her distance herself from Rakia at first, and she got conflicted over how bad guys don't deserve to be happy. Before acknowledging Rakia's change later, I guess she doesn't abide by protecting everybody's interests; those unworthy of her/Shoma's kindness, and likely she coped by not believing that Kenji murdered Sae before.

Though Hanto has clearly formed a friendship with Rakia since Episode 32, I disagree with Hanto justifying Rakia’s crimes as a means of avenging Comel, though Hanto pointing out the victims Rakia abducted are now free can be good news for Sachika, not about downplaying Rakia but about how she'd be relieved that the people she's worried about due to their kidnapped loved ones can still be happy. I think the defense should be about how the victims are safe, and he has genuinely changed for the better.

I wonder if there will be conflict between Lango and Nyelv, given that Nyelv is working with an individual Lango looks down upon. Lango is likely to disapprove of their collaboration due to his disdain for humans. Nyelv is already seen as a traitor to the Stomach family, but it can be because his actions seem to prioritize human interests over those of the Stomach family by recognizing Shoma's capabilities and not looking down on the human world—similar to Bocca. Although Nyelv has previously worked with Suga, this would mark the first occasion he collaborates with a good human.

[Sh Ranger]

Turns out I was wrong about next episode's title continuing the lyrics. Oh well. Awesome to see Caking getting so much love towards the end!

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Sachika also learns the full story of Lakia and is confronted with conflicts in both his own beliefs and his relationship with Vram. Fortunately, actions speak louder than words and Lakia saving people convinces Sachika to continue supporting him. It is also funny that Hanto acts as Granute's protector here. Overall, I'd say this subplot works well thematically and emotionally, shading Shouma's situation. But I still wish it had happened sooner. Because it means that even after learning about the riders and Granute, Sachika is still left out in the cold.

This emphasizes Lakia's development as well. He used to be totally apathetic towards humans, but now he feels terrible without Sachika's validation, since she was the one who got through to him about the true meaning of heroism when Shouma and Hanto couldn't. I like how Lakia's proof of heroism helps Sachika confront her own flaw, finding the power in her heart to forgive him for his crimes and accept that Lakia's past doesn't make him less of the person she's always known and respected. It's a pretty great dynamic, alongside ChocoGummy.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

The next episode will feature a lot of Granute and Shouma in black. I'm catching Kiva's vibe. Let's see where this leads, but I feel like our main character is in for some tough times.

Shouma's going to break the chain! Excited to see how he will act in his new role.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Although Nyelv appears to genuinely ally himself with Shoma?unlike Glion from Gotchard?it's evident that Nyelv still has ulterior motives and desires to rule over the Granute World. This isn't a redemption, it's an enemy mine situation fueled by mutual needs, like Saeko in W, Kuroto in Ex-Aid, Evolt in Build V-Cinema, or Daichi in Geats. Nyelv communicates pragmatically with Shoma, focusing his capabilities, Michiru's death, and his evolution from those events.

However, if Nyelve's claim is true that he loves his family, including Shouma, having done everything so far to push them towards the top of the Granute World, then I'd say that at least puts him above depraved guys like Evolt and Daichi who are completely self-serving. Not that I'm defending his methods of course, which shows he clearly doesn't care about anybody outside his family other than Suga, to whom he has an odd way of showing respect.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

By this logic, it seems that Shoma might be willing to leave the Granute World?s fate in the hands of the Stomach family if it means ensuring the safety of the human world. Now even Gavv also leaves me wanting more, as expressed earlier, I wanted to see more exploration of the Granute World. Unfortunately, it's done this late, and they likely will only focus on defeating Bocca, not touching upon other potentials like protecting the Granutes from harm and improving their world to promote happiness for all living beings.

But if Shouma becomes the head of the Stomach family, then that means the Granute World will be in his hands. He'll have the power to reform it in to one similar to Earth, like how Alain did for Ganma World. However, Shouma would also need to ensure there's someone he can trust to continue his work, since the Granute World is something like a republic instead of a monarchy.

[Tokumonkey]

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Originally Posted by DH21965

LOL this made me chuckle a bit, but no biblical length texts just means you don?t like to summarize properly, and are in love with your own writing

Repeatedly telling Zolda "Don't write so much" is not resulting in whatever your desired conclusion is.

Am I correct in guessing that desired conclusion is that you'd just like to scroll less when perusing an episode thread? This forum doesn't have a lot of good tools for truncating post length, but what it does have is a spoiler-tag switch: [spoiler]

Spoiler-tagging could approximate a Wordpress-esque "the full post is behind the jump" feature. I've found it useful in my own blogging, since my think-out-loud process tends to result in a wall of text.

Right now, when I'm scrolling through a thread, yes, Zolda's trend long, but they also tend to be followed-up by one of more of your posts taking Zolda to task for posting something notably long, which results in even more scrolling because on at least one occasion - this one - you've quoted the entire text that annoyed you.

Hey, Zolda! Would you be open to spoiler-tagging your longer posts after the first paragraph or so? I suspect doing so would result in folks getting on your case less frequently.