[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider

I'll take many riders over 1 or 2 most any day for a couple of reasons.

In terms of story, it helps to break the formula I'm freaking sick of. Figuring out what to do with the extra super powered characters gives more variety to the story and the writers have more freedom to do something different. It's not impossible to do that with only 1 or 2 riders, it's just makes things easier to do with a handful of rider.

In terms of marketing, the entire toy line isn't one guy in different outfits. This also helps limits the main characters from being to overpowered since they don't have to sell as many toys of that main character. It also allows for some antagonists and villains to get toys, something every good toy line needs.


PS And for the record, I love Kuuga, it's my second favorite series (pending Gaim's final placement). Of course I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish Ichijo became a rider at some point, so even then I want more Riders.

Or you'll end up with a lot of one dimensional,one note,pointless or flat characters because the writer can't handle that many characters granted this can and does happen to shows with only one character and there are exceptions of course but across the board from what I've seen less characters=stronger characterization

No it's usually the 2-3 most popular ones that get the most toys,tell that to Sentai and their love of reds and sixths and actually the more heroes the less likely villains will get made because you have more heroes you can make toys of and heroes outsell villains.

[Boshusan]

What was great with Kuuga, is that his partner was the whole police. He was the sole rider with a badass-normal sidekick, and an army of red shirts. I think the formula deserve another try.

When you think about it, the local forces are almost inexistant in toku shows, they usually come in the firsts episodes to demonstrate how strong is the monster of the week and go missing after that. But in Kuuga they were doing their job, assisting the hero with what they could and sacrificing their lives to protect the population.

[Blade Raider]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

Or you'll end up with a lot of one dimensional,one note,pointless or flat characters because the writer can't handle that many characters granted this can and does happen to shows with only one character and there are exceptions of course but across the board from what I've seen less characters=stronger characterization

There's equal chances of that happening with few riders. Exhibit A: Wizard. I'll take a lot of one note characters to fill the time with some variety instead one or two painfully boring characters any day.

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Originally Posted by Boshusan

What was great with Kuuga, is that his partner was the whole police. He was the sole rider with a badass-normal sidekick, and an army of red shirts. I think the formula deserve another try.

It does deserve another try, but that will never happen as long as toys is where this franchise makes its money. That set up is just not toyetic enough for today's Bandai.

[Aoi Kurenai]

There should never be any sort of hard rule about this, but at least giving the writers an option to introduce more Riders would be a good idea. With Wizard I got the feeling that the production crew was really fighting Bandai on being able to introduce a third Rider into the series itself. Had they been allowed to introduce a third Rider earlier on, Mayuu definitely could have added a much needed leg for that series to stand on.

[Locke]

Minus Wizard and to an extent Fourze - out of every Rider show I've seen, that has multiple Riders, and I actually liked, two is the magic number for me.

In Wizard, unpopular opinion, but I found Haruto charismatic enough to carry the show alone. I liked the Mages a lot, but if you cut them out of the series you would never have noticed and I personally found Beast a complete waste of air until like the last ten episodes, and getting good that late into a show...still makes you pointless.

OOO on the other hand was really the beginning for me for realising how much I appreciated the magic two. This was a show I felt severely flagged until Date came into the series and there having a secondary Rider not only saved the show for me, but dragged up to levels of greatness.

W could have done without Accel, I LOVE Accel, but he was always awkwardly shoehorned into the series in a way that made me assume the show didn't want him there. As much as I would have missed him, W may very well have been better off focusing more solely on the adventures of Skull and Pre-Gaia Memories and then W fighting the ones in the present day. A sorta of two timeline Kiva thing, but not shit. Two is the magic number.

And so on, and forever.

[EnerPrime]

I wouldn't really call Decade a two Rider show. Two Original to the show main character Riders, perhaps. If there was one thing Decade did not suffer from, it was a lack of Riders.

[Suzu]

Honestly, I don't care how many riders a show has, as long as they are well-written and fit in the story, I can cope with tons of riders, but I generally seem to prefer a smaller group of riders or even just one rider. Wizard would have worked better without Beast or with Beast being a better character from the start, because near the end of the series, he turned into an awesome character. But when he was first introduced, you did get the feeling that the writers didn't even want him there. Most of his appearances were just plain stupid and all they did is make Wizard look even cooler. That's not the point of a Secondary rider.

I also could've lived without DiEnd. He was pretty boring and I feel he made Decade even more confusing than it already was at that point. Of course, we did have Kuuga and Kivara as other recurring riders, but Kuuga usually forgot he was a Rider and didn't help at all while Kivara only appeared in a movie, so basically, Decade would've worked with just Decade himself.

My favorite seasons were all those with just a few Riders, such as OOO, W and Fourze, but the multirider concept of Gaim is really good, so I don't complain about it.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Suzu

Honestly, I don't care how many riders a show has, as long as they are well-written and fit in the story, I can cope with tons of riders, but I generally seem to prefer a smaller group of riders or even just one rider. Wizard would have worked better without Beast or with Beast being a better character from the start, because near the end of the series, he turned into an awesome character. But when he was first introduced, you did get the feeling that the writers didn't even want him there. Most of his appearances were just plain stupid and all they did is make Wizard look even cooler. That's not the point of a Secondary rider..

Agree one thousand percent.

[Aoi Kurenai]

Yeah, Beast has the stench of "this is the guy Bandai forced into the show" all over him. It's such a shame to waste a talented actor in a role so disconnected from the story at large. Though in the long run he turns out to be a much more meaningful character than Wizard due to what he does in the final few episodes, utilizing his strengths earlier on would have made him a much better character. Instead we end up with this guy whose main story has absolutely no impact on the main story at large.

Wizard is one of those shows where the head writer just never seemed to care. The guy always complained that he wasn't a fan of TV production due to the fast paced nature and yet thought coming back for Wizard would be a good idea. There were some really cool concepts in there but they lackluster way he presents them made it impossible for me to care about anything because I didn't care about the characters beyond Mayuu and Nito one bit.

[Locke]

I really did find it bizarre and amusing that Haruto was almost dropped entirely out of his own show in the wrap up minus that one cool fight Infinity, which up to that point was an entirely wasted final form (add that one to my list of wasted designs).

Nitoh completely steals the spotlight at the end, after doing jack shit after his introduction (so nothing for about thirty episodes). I have no clue why he was added so early if the writers had no plans for him at all, it's especially frustrating because his backstory suggests an interesting character the show never attempts to capitalise on, so I have no idea why they brought that up either.

Honestly for the last ten or fifteen episodes it really does feel like an entirely new head writer was brought on board that totally confused Haruto and Nitoh.

I think if those last ten to fifteen episodes were the focus for the WHOLE show, it could have been great but it was rushed to the point of meaninglessness and felt so disconnected from the rest of the season it was hard to really care.