Kamen Rider General Questions

GoldenXtreme · 06-30-2016, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

It's fine. I don't know how you didn't pick up on Eiji and Ankh's relationship, but I guess we all see things differently.

It seems like a lot of what you said kind of stems from you just getting the wrong message, hence why I think, if you really want to see OOO in the way most people do, I think rewatching it would do loads better than 2 paragraphs of explaining things

No need to rush. Though I am thinking about rewatching OOO myself, now (3rd favorite series), which is a problem since I really need to watch Gingaman.

I have a theory that I am just physically incapable of understanding anything that Yasuko Kobayashi was the head writer on. I've watched every KR season she was the head writer on and I've been left with a similar feeling of bewilderment each time. Maybe I should see if this holds true for her Sentai seasons too, haha.

Sunred · 06-30-2016, 04:43 AM

Fun fact about Kobayashi, she was a programmer before she became a writer.
One day Winspector was on TV and it triggered her to send a tokusatsu pitch to TV Asahi's thoughts and suggestions corner(which according to her Japanese Wikipedia page later developed into Exceedraft) and caught the attention of Exceedraft's producer.
She then attended screen writing school and then penned episode 40 of Janperson.
The rest is history.

TimeCrimson · 06-30-2016, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vin13ish

How did you were introduced to Kamen Rider or Super Sentai?

I started using a computer around like 2004, when like Dino Thunder was airing and Power Rangers was obviously the first thing I knew how to type. But on Google, instead of pressing Google Search I'd do I'm feeling lucky, and it would direct me to Power Ranger Central/Super Sentai Time Capsule, and I used to spend hours looking at the databases created.

I didn't fully connect the dots until I read stuff about Boukenger being unveiled and stuff in 2006, and actually watching a few episodes on youtube. Kamen Rider rolled along just as well, following from Go-Onger/Kiva and watching Shinkenger/Decade.

henshinzero · 06-30-2016, 12:58 PM

How would you revision Decade's world? Without the cliffhanger and Narutaki.

AND... without Decade being a "destroyer".

ZeoRangerV · 06-30-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

How would you revision Decade's world? Without the cliffhanger and Narutaki.

AND... without Decade being a "destroyer".

You already asked that question once.

Matrixbeast · 06-30-2016, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

How would you revision Decade's world? Without the cliffhanger and Narutaki.

AND... without Decade being a "destroyer".

2 of those things are vital to the story. Narutaki being the doomsayer that knows a lot more than anyone, and Decade being a destroyer, but choosing to defy fate and try to save everyone.

Removing them wouldn't be revising Decade, it'd be completely changing it.

vin13ish · 06-30-2016, 02:03 PM

Out of Post-Decade Kamen Riders, Which Main Rider that lack of Character Development?

For me, It's Fourze and Wizard

Fourze is basically "I want everyone to be my friend" goody two shoes guy and he was a satellite character along with Yuki. Other Characters got a character development from HIM!

The reason of why he is portrayed as a "I want everyone to be my friend" goody two shoes guy because that earthquake! Earthquake was a reason of how Friendship theme came to be! Also if wasn't for that Earthquake, We wouldn't get so many Sentai Legends in Gokaiger! The original plan of Gokaiger that some of Gokaiger like Luka would get a character development.

Wizard doesn't have an unique personality as he act like Dante from Devil May Cry. I mean what was his character development?

henshinzero · 06-30-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vin13ish

Out of Post-Decade Kamen Riders, Which Main Rider that lack of Character Development?

For me, It's Fourze and Wizard

Fourze is basically "I want everyone to be my friend" goody two shoes guy and he was a satellite character along with Yuki. Other Characters got a character development from HIM!

The reason of why he is portrayed as a "I want everyone to be my friend" goody two shoes guy because that earthquake! Earthquake was a reason of how Friendship theme came to be! Also if wasn't for that Earthquake, We wouldn't get so many Sentai Legends in Gokaiger! The original plan of Gokaiger that some of Gokaiger like Luka would get a character development.

Wizard doesn't have an unique personality as he act like Dante from Devil May Cry. I mean what was his character development?

Too bad in Wizard they should've added a "Vergil" in KR Wizard. I'd be comfortable to three riders.

Two like Dante & Vergil and Beast as an original.

Fourze was annoying to me. That series would've done something about it to turn dark.

vin13ish · 06-30-2016, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

Fourze was annoying to me. That series would've done something about it to turn dark.

But that could cause the problem in Fourze because that earthquake happens and Toei want to do a Friendship theme show so to remind many peoples and childrens that Kamen Rider are your friend

So because friendship theme, Fourze never have an Evil-Rider in their show

It even incorporated in OOO/Fourze when their evil rider was brainwashed! No ACTUALLY Evil Rider

Matrixbeast · 06-30-2016, 05:38 PM

Why is that a problem?

06-30-2016, 12:10 AM	#2871
GoldenXtreme Henshin Heaven Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Inside a Hyper Battle Video, help. Posts: 1,412	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast It's fine. I don't know how you didn't pick up on Eiji and Ankh's relationship, but I guess we all see things differently. It seems like a lot of what you said kind of stems from you just getting the wrong message, hence why I think, if you really want to see OOO in the way most people do, I think rewatching it would do loads better than 2 paragraphs of explaining things No need to rush. Though I am thinking about rewatching OOO myself, now (3rd favorite series), which is a problem since I really need to watch Gingaman. I have a theory that I am just physically incapable of understanding anything that Yasuko Kobayashi was the head writer on. I've watched every KR season she was the head writer on and I've been left with a similar feeling of bewilderment each time. Maybe I should see if this holds true for her Sentai seasons too, haha. __________________ Tier Lists: Kamen Rider \| Sentai \| Ultra

06-30-2016, 04:43 AM	#2872
Sunred Ex-Weather Three leader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 11,685	Fun fact about Kobayashi, she was a programmer before she became a writer. One day Winspector was on TV and it triggered her to send a tokusatsu pitch to TV Asahi's thoughts and suggestions corner(which according to her Japanese Wikipedia page later developed into Exceedraft) and caught the attention of Exceedraft's producer. She then attended screen writing school and then penned episode 40 of Janperson. The rest is history. __________________

06-30-2016, 10:56 AM	#2873
TimeCrimson Immortal thumbs ups Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 196	Quote: Originally Posted by vin13ish How did you were introduced to Kamen Rider or Super Sentai? I started using a computer around like 2004, when like Dino Thunder was airing and Power Rangers was obviously the first thing I knew how to type. But on Google, instead of pressing Google Search I'd do I'm feeling lucky, and it would direct me to Power Ranger Central/Super Sentai Time Capsule, and I used to spend hours looking at the databases created. I didn't fully connect the dots until I read stuff about Boukenger being unveiled and stuff in 2006, and actually watching a few episodes on youtube. Kamen Rider rolled along just as well, following from Go-Onger/Kiva and watching Shinkenger/Decade. __________________

06-30-2016, 01:04 PM	#2875
ZeoRangerV Kawaii 5-0 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cardiff, United Kingdom Posts: 12,851	Quote: Originally Posted by henshinzero How would you revision Decade's world? Without the cliffhanger and Narutaki. AND... without Decade being a "destroyer". You already asked that question once. __________________ My Shiny Toy Robots: Toku, Anime & Toy Reviews

06-30-2016, 01:26 PM	#2876
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Quote: Originally Posted by henshinzero How would you revision Decade's world? Without the cliffhanger and Narutaki. AND... without Decade being a "destroyer". 2 of those things are vital to the story. Narutaki being the doomsayer that knows a lot more than anyone, and Decade being a destroyer, but choosing to defy fate and try to save everyone. Removing them wouldn't be revising Decade, it'd be completely changing it. __________________