Kamen Rider General Questions

MaskedRiderAsakura · 05-24-2018, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Well, there’s always Kusaka, but it’s hard to say how much he was ever an ally to begin with. He was definitely acting on his own, douchey free will, though.

Kusaka was the first that came to mind, but I honestly kind of see him as a villain that's just working with the heroes because they have a mutual enemy.

Sunred · 05-24-2018, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura

A thought just occurred to me.

I haven't seen every Rider series and I could also be remembering other series that I have seen wrong, but is Mitsuzane the first Rider to have a genuine face-heel turn story arc? As in a character that starts off as a full-blown hero and ally and straight up becomes a bad guy, without the involvement of any brainwashing, possession or being misdirected by the villains.

I can think of others that started off in an antagonistic role, but I can't think of anyone who started as a straight up ally and switched sides purely by their own free will.

Rey from Kiva and Kabuki from Hibiki. Also Glaive from Blade.

Switchblade · 05-24-2018, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunred

Rey from Kiva and Kabuki from Hibiki. Also Glaive from Blade.

It's been a long time since I saw Missing Ace, but wasn't Glaive really an Undead?

Blade Fang · 05-24-2018, 03:39 PM

Glaive's true identity is Albino Joker since beginning

Galador · 05-24-2018, 04:18 PM

Would G4 also qualify?

Matrixbeast · 05-24-2018, 05:49 PM

What about Garren?

Sunred · 05-24-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

What about Garren?

Ehh, but he later rejoined the crew though after losing his lover and somersault kicked a zombie peacock though, no?

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Originally Posted by Galador

Would G4 also qualify?

I was thinking about that but remembering the movie he was an antagonist from the get-go. He was fighting the unknowns but the fact that him and his boss were antagonists since day 1 if I recall.

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

It's been a long time since I saw Missing Ace, but wasn't Glaive really an Undead?

What Blade Fang said.

Sevenlima · 07-09-2018, 01:36 PM

Decade come from another dimension ?

GoseiWonder · 07-09-2018, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sevenlima

Decade come from another dimension ?

Yes. That’s his entire schtick.

Sevenlima · 07-09-2018, 02:58 PM

We could have a KR called nexus ?

05-24-2018, 10:49 AM	#5241
MaskedRiderAsakura Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,569	Quote: Originally Posted by Switchblade Well, there’s always Kusaka, but it’s hard to say how much he was ever an ally to begin with. He was definitely acting on his own, douchey free will, though. Kusaka was the first that came to mind, but I honestly kind of see him as a villain that's just working with the heroes because they have a mutual enemy. __________________

05-24-2018, 12:10 PM	#5242
Sunred Ex-Weather Three leader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 11,665	Quote: Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura A thought just occurred to me. I haven't seen every Rider series and I could also be remembering other series that I have seen wrong, but is Mitsuzane the first Rider to have a genuine face-heel turn story arc? As in a character that starts off as a full-blown hero and ally and straight up becomes a bad guy, without the involvement of any brainwashing, possession or being misdirected by the villains. I can think of others that started off in an antagonistic role, but I can't think of anyone who started as a straight up ally and switched sides purely by their own free will. Rey from Kiva and Kabuki from Hibiki. Also Glaive from Blade. __________________ Last edited by Sunred; 05-24-2018 at 12:13 PM..

05-24-2018, 05:49 PM	#5246
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	What about Garren? __________________

05-24-2018, 05:55 PM	#5247
Sunred Ex-Weather Three leader Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 11,665	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast What about Garren? Ehh, but he later rejoined the crew though after losing his lover and somersault kicked a zombie peacock though, no? Quote: Originally Posted by Galador Would G4 also qualify? I was thinking about that but remembering the movie he was an antagonist from the get-go. He was fighting the unknowns but the fact that him and his boss were antagonists since day 1 if I recall. Quote: Originally Posted by Switchblade It's been a long time since I saw Missing Ace, but wasn't Glaive really an Undead? What Blade Fang said. __________________ Last edited by Sunred; 05-24-2018 at 05:59 PM..

07-09-2018, 02:58 PM	#5250
Sevenlima Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,504	We could have a KR called nexus ? Last edited by Sevenlima; 07-09-2018 at 03:00 PM..