[Locke]

@Fish Sandwich - just wanted to say I appreciate this insight a lot, and while I am sure it is reductive versus the complexities of the reality of it all, it is interesting that it is anchored around a trio, as I would argue Gavv has three very clear directions that don't quite exist in harmony and tend to pull the show in differing directions (Stomach Family / Granuto society, Suga / clones / the old school body horror stuff and then Shouma's core arc and the relationships he builds around him).

[Locke]

I have been holding off on sharing my thoughts on my Drive watch as I wasn't sure where a good check in spot would be, but man, I just have to speak now with the episode introducing Kamen Rider Chase. Is the glow down from Machine Chaser to his good Rider form the biggest in Rider history? Like off the top of my head I can't think of a bigger downgrade.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Locke

I have been holding off on sharing my thoughts on my Drive watch as I wasn't sure where a good check in spot would be, but man, I just have to speak now with the episode introducing Kamen Rider Chase. Is the glow down from Machine Chaser to his good Rider form the biggest in Rider history? Like off the top of my head I can't think of a bigger downgrade.

Godai to Onodera?

[Sh Ranger]

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Lango also killed his father, not in a duel, but in a rather cowardly manner. Incidentally, given his hypocrisy, he's perhaps the only sibling I don't consider traumatized by his elders. Simply because he tends to blame others for his failures, so even if Bushe had been an ideal father, he wouldn't have been spared from poison, in my opinion.

Even that part-timer orientation video called Lango the second coming of Zombu and considering how that guy shunned Nyelve for his weakness, I doubt he was a better father to Bouche either. While neglect turned Lango's siblings to the side of evil, he only seemed to care about the company and decided that Bouche's ethics were getting in the way of profits, so yeah, even if Bouche had loved all his kids equally, the addition of Shouma likely would've pushed Lango to take over anyway.

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Speaking of which, we can recall the Blade/Hibiki/Kabuto trio, where the team working on it changed (more or less) halfway through the show. I think in these cases, the original plan, if not completely abandoned, was at least significantly altered.

Did Kabuto really have a staff change like that though? I thought it was just having to write around Hiyori's actress getting ill for a while. The most mysterious one is Blade though, like, 22 years later and there's basically no information about what happened to Imai.

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I wonder what'd those people think that Shoma does talk to the more despicable one in Lango while not giving Jeebh (the one seen as more sympathetic only because he's younger) any of his time later. Also, though people wouldn't say Stomachs are the strong suit of Gavv, they'd just blame Bouche and think the Stomachs are evil because of trauma suffered from his neglect, of which claiming it's about prejudice is underselling Gavv as a series, and that the real 'deep' theme and point is about cycle of trauma and abuse.

Jeep being sympathetic isn't due to his youth, he's just one of the villains who got development like Desast in Saber, while Lango stayed as the same idiot he always had been despite pretending to be impartial by firing Jeep and Theta. Bouche is no saint of course, but unfortunately he gets blamed unfairly due to a collective headcanon about his marital relationship that many people repeated as fact. The actual source of evil in the family is Zombu and Lango.

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Is the glow down from Machine Chaser to his good Rider form the biggest in Rider history? Like off the top of my head I can't think of a bigger downgrade.

I used to call this guy Two-Eyed Chaser, as it was most remarkable thing about his Rider form.

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Godai to Onodera?

Hey, Onodera will always be my Yuusuke!

[Locke]

It is weird too, because as much as I don't love all the car themeing and stuff, I really admire the suits in Drive. They seemed to decide on smaller scale form changes, so they could really bake the core suits and I think it pays off massively. The level of detail, all the intricacies, the fact that the suits actually have backs and a sense of weight to them, they just look awesome to me. And it works too because the show puts more effort into establishing these things as mechanical, that require skill by the user to pilot, they aren't just like magic Bruce Lee powers, so making the suits really tactile hits home on this point.

...Then Chase transforms and is just in a cheap silver jumpsuit and a spray painted airsoft vest and they seemingly just went "eh, good enough". He looks like that always super cheap looking extra Ranger made exclusively for a Power Ranger's season that we see for like two episodes.

[Switchblade]

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Hey, Onodera will always be my Yuusuke!

I?m so sorry.