[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

I like the Phantoms a lot more. Phoenix and Medusa are both really fun characters and I like having monsters that are actually monsters again - not people with some kind of switch or largely mindless dolls made out of medals. Phantoms are intelligent, they have a clear goal, and they're not afraid to cause death and destruction to get their way. I think they're the best monsters we've had in years. Zodiarts, on the other hand, were just watered down Dopants and most of the Horoscopes were just standard MotWs.

What Fourze were you watching? What I saw were Zodiarts with personality, who took the switch for deeply personal reasons. Not the Moster of the Week style we're getting with Wizard. None of them have a reason to do what they're going, they're just doing it. And they aren't watered down Doponts, either. Outside of Leo, the Horoscopes were much deeper than just "Imma make you cry rofl!" like the Phantoms have been. Virgo/Tachibana for example had deeply personal reasons for being both a Horosope, and Tachibanana. Libra, Scorpio, Cancer, all had wonderful backstories and reasons for doing what they do.

While the Phantoms just appear and start blowing crap up for no reason. Like I said before: If they would show the creation of the Phantoms, give them some kind of human face (So to speak), they'd be so much better than they are. I like Medusa's design, I hope she gets a Figuart, but no Phantom personality could hold a candle to a Horoscope. Because thew Phantoms don't have personalities.

That includes Leo.

[NGW]

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Originally Posted by Barricade64

It's a bit hard to judge considering Fourze is all wrapped up and Wizard's only about a third in. I do enjoy Phoenix and Medusa, but the Zodiarts and Horoscopes were overall more developed as characters than any MOTW Phantom has been so far.

To be fair though, even from the beginning the individual Zodiarts were given backstories, motivations, goals, and we could tell that there was something more going on behind them.

All we've seen from the Phantoms, Wisemen, etc. is that they want to create more Phantoms.

[Barricade64]

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Originally Posted by NGW

To be fair though, even from the beginning the individual Zodiarts were given backstories, motivations, goals, and we could tell that there was something more going on behind them.

All we've seen from the Phantoms, Wisemen, etc. is that they want to create more Phantoms.

I think the Zodiarts have gotten that because they were human and did need some redemption at the end (at least the motw's) while Phantoms can just be killed off. Still, the Phantom's do have the memories of their hosts so maybe they could do something with that.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by Barricade64

I think the Zodiarts have gotten that because they were human and did need some redemption at the end (at least the motw's) while Phantoms can just be killed off. Still, the Phantom's do have the memories of their hosts so maybe they could do something with that.

That would've made them so much better. Instead we get them appearing, attacking, then being defeated. It's like watching Power Rangers in the early days.

[Golden King]

I do have some hopes for the phantoms, granted they seem MotW for the most part, but the one with the fadora seems to be more the your run-of-the-mill Phantom. But for the most part the Zodiarts did have more depth in character and I do like there desing better on averge, but the show is still younge, who knows what surpries wait around the corner

[ComicGuy89]

For now the Zodiarts are far more interesting than the Phantoms. I guess part of this is because the characterization is now on the MOTW's victims rather than the monsters themselves. Last time we explored the motivations of the Zodiarts, but now we focus more on the hopes of the Gates.

[Den-O]

Can I be brutally honest? Zodiarts, outside some of the commanders (Cancer Libra Virgo), and the Phantoms (outside Phoenix) are all pretty damn bland

[ComicGuy89]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Can I be brutally honest? Zodiarts, outside some of the commanders (Cancer Libra Virgo), and the Phantoms (outside Phoenix) are all pretty damn bland

What's the ideal villain group for you then, Den-O?

[Matrixbeast]

Gee. I wonder, asking the guy named Den-O, who he considers to be the best monster group.
Obviously it's the Undead from Blade. Obviously.

[SideswipePrime]

I personally think that the Zodiarts were better characters, but design-wise I think they are equal.